[pp.int.general] free software video streaming

[Zbigniew Łukasiak]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Travis McCrea <me at travismccrea.com> wrote:
> Let's just remember that the agreement wasn't made between "all pirates" it
> was made between /a pirate party/ and Richard Stallman. If Pirate Parties
> International or the Pirate Party of Canada made the agreement, I would not
> interfere. I, nor any group I represent, has signed an agreement with
> Richard Stallman and it's not reasonable to think that I have to uphold
> agreements that are morally unjust just because some other Pirate Party
> want's to do it.

>From what I understand Richard Stallman does not think anyone outside
of his hosts to be bound by the agreement - so you are prying open
doors here.

Z.

>
> This isn't a reflection of the Pirate Party as a whole, each Pirate Party is
> upholding it's own agreements that it makes with it's own contacts. If the
> Pirate Party of Canada made an agreement with the MPAA that we will not
> speak out against their actions as long as they promise to promote our party
> (something we wouldn't do, but an example). It would be silly for the MPAA
> to think that the agreement would apply to all Pirate Parties and I wouldn't
> think that other Pirate Parties wouldn't speak out against the MPAA just
> because the Pirate Party of Canada made that agreement.
>
> We are all individual parties, there is nothing in the PPI mandate which
> says member parties have to uphold the actions of the other members. So
> again, I am not promoting anything illegal or unethical. I am also /not/
> acting on behalf of any party or organization and my words are purely my
> own.
>
> Travis McCrea
> Pirate Party of Canada
> The Ultimate Ebook Library
> Kopimist Church of Idaho
>
> Phone: 1(206)552-8728 US Call/Text
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>
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:56 PM, illunatic at greenpirate.org wrote:
>
> Quoting Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>:
>
> [...]we pirates should honour the gentlemens agreements of our fellow
> pirates, and that we do not want to alienate Mr. Richard Stallman and the
> Free Software Foundation from our struggle.
>
>
>
> The above quote, removed from the context of the rest of this discussion,
> stands on its own merit. We should never forget that such agreements trump
> all and that any legal mumbo jumbo applied by a chosen license is merely a
> fallback for what, ideally, would be a rare case of either party failing to
> follow through in honoring their agreement.
>
> While the morality of honoring such agreements could be argued, I really
> believe this to be the most practical default in handling such matters.
> Otherwise, this discussion about settling on the best method for sharing
> these works is an excellent discussion to be had... before such an agreement
> is made. :)
>
> - Ryan F. Smith
> El Pirata Verde
>
>
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