[pp.int.general] 'Liquid Democrazy': Pirate Party Sinks amid Chaos and Bickering

[Antonio Garcia]

Perfectly worded, Anouk.

And fit to tweet around.


All the problems we face resume to just one... dare to trust each other. Then we can restart on a clean basis.


Antonio.

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:15:50 +0100
From: jakobsheep at gmail.com
To: me at travismccrea.com
CC: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] 'Liquid Democrazy': Pirate Party Sinks amid Chaos and Bickering

Thank you Travis for your openess. I understand your point much better now.

What I ment to say with ego versus individual is what you explain here as a brain virus. I also visiualize it that way. Egoism stands for the reasoning from solely the self-interest as where individualism stands for taking account of the other individuals on a equal base. That is the world of difference that would change the world when understood and practised.


pirately,

mrNatural

On Feb 24, 2013 9:08 a.m., "Travis McCrea" <me at travismccrea.com> wrote:


Of course it is, we are people (and I am generalizing here, so please forgive me I know it doesn't include everyone) who were bullied and teased in school, we were outcasts and now that we have our own clique we are developing the same patterns that the cliques in High School did. We are becoming bullies to people in our group and looking at our differences instead of our likenesses.


Throw that in with a group that is statistically more likely to have Aspergers (or something else on the Autism Spectrum or social deficit disorder), and you have the Pirate Party. We cannot change how our brains work, however, we can look within ourselves and try to see what we are doing so that we can be nicer to each other. It's harder because we are not trying to be mean, we are not trying to ride someone hard, but we usually do and once we see that in ourselves we can work to fix it.


People with an ASD also have a bigger problem with people telling us what to do. We don't want you to boss us around or think that you are somehow better than us. The libertarianism in our party probably in large part comes from that, and it's not necessarily wrong to question authority… I don't have the answer for how we respond to this, I have my opinions on leadership and I know many of you have different views on it. However, we should recognize that the general group of people I am addressing this to (which includes me) have an unnatural aversion to people in leadership roles and while we shouldn't give them arbitrary trust, we should treat them with understanding that they are doing a lot to make as many people as they can happy.


Maybe I will get flamed for this "blah blah blah you can't generalize" "blah blah blah politically correct things about ASD"… so I just want to repeat this isn't for everyone, if you read this and see a little bit of yourself in it… then it's for you.



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On Feb 24, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Francisco George <francisco.george at gmail.com> wrote:


Let us face the truth...we are all affected by the same virus!

https://twitter.com/SalernoMax/statuses/305344760963543040





http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-pirate-party-sinks-amid-chaos-and-bickering-a-884533.html








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