[pp.int.general] 'Liquid Democrazy': Pirate Party Sinks amid Chaos and Bickering

[carlo von lynX]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 08:50:07PM +0100, StreetDogg wrote:
> By calling it a "myth" it does not go away. They did not ask "some
> bureaucrat", but the official authorities of at least two states,
> which are responsible for the oversight of public and private
> organisations in regard of data protection. They both consistently

i've read the regulations for the permanent assembly at
https://wiki.piratenpartei.de/MV:St%C3%A4ndige_Mitgliederversammlung/Geschaeftsordnung
the argumentations of mr lohmann and in particular the legal FAQ on
https://wiki.piratenpartei.de/MV:St%C3%A4ndige_Mitgliederversammlung
and find the reasoning very professional and convincing.

in particular the data protection issue you mentioned has been fixed
by introducing a court-of-arbitration appeal feature which is so 
neat that i just proposed it to be added to the italian perm 
assembly, too.

i doubt the courts will disallow this approach from moving forward.
i'm impressed by the job their doing up there and i'm particularely
proud of the media attention they got:

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/37/37560/1.html
http://www.welt.de/print/welt_kompakt/print_politik/article108126731/Kuesten-Piraten-tagen-jetzt-staendig-online.html
etc.

i wished the german party was doing this kind of media headlines all the time. 

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in the meantime the brand squatters made it onto the election ballot
and scrapped >2000 votes off the "pirate" brand

http://www.repubblica.it/static/speciale/2013/elezioni/senato/riepilogo_nazionale.html

too bad they are rather center-right, pro copyright and have
multi-level delegational statutes with privileges for the founding
members and an almost unreplaceable leader position. quite elaborate
and undemocratic for a two digit membership party.

... yet they call themselves pirates.

at least we were able to legally keep them from using the signet
and our name, "partito pirata."

damn, i hate we didn't make it to collect signatures!