[pp.int.general] R: R: What is democracy in a party

[Anouk Neeteson]

What if one's own party doesn't provide it?

I go further, where is it for the world's PP? (even when it is not existing
(yet). I understand it is all very theoretical but is the PP ideology not
theoretical as well?)

Are we turning this 'need' down reasoning 'let them compete it out' or are
we going to offer it to be solved through coorperation? Namingly they (the
italiens for now) are now at least discussing with eachother and proving
their points to 'us'. Because their real problem is that they do not
recognise eachothers problem.
If the pirates believe that ultimately we all together should function as a
coorperative democracy then now we have an opportunity to experiment with
this IMHO.

mrNatural
On Jan 1, 2013 2:30 p.m., "Mozart Palmer" <
mozart.palmer at pp-international.net> wrote:

> Those parties having disputes should have their own mailing lists provided
> by their own parties.
>
> And if they're using this mailing list, they should speak English at
> minimum.
>
> On 2 January 2013 00:14, Anouk Neeteson <jakobsheep at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Create a new maillist for these type of debates for which is (possibly or
>> even obviously) a need? PP philosophy or PP anarchy or PP encounters? (just
>> trying to be proproductive)
>>
>> mrNatural
>> On Jan 1, 2013 1:57 p.m., "Mozart Palmer" <
>> mozart.palmer at pp-international.net> wrote:
>>
>>> This is getting ridiculous. Time to unsubscribe I think. Seems like this
>>> has become an arena for petty party squabbles. Too much instability and
>>> insanity for my liking: it's becoming embarrassing to be associated with
>>> certain other parties and their members.
>>>
>>> On 1 January 2013 15:49, Moramarco <moramarco at email.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Non hanno nemmeno la cortezza di stare in silenzio perchè pure
>>>> ignoranti , questa è la ulteriore prova di quanto esposto e non sanno che
>>>> metterò anche il resto in rete, dopo che hanno violato ogni tipo di privacy
>>>> sulla mia persona e su altri...Povertà assoluta e fanno pure pena dopo le
>>>> email, il fango e gli insulti precedenti pubblici...Spero che adesso sia
>>>> chiaro...Buon anno a tutti
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alv" <alv at dyne.org>
>>>>
>>>> To: "Pirate Parties International -- General Talk" <
>>>> pp.international.general@**lists.pirateweb.net<pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>>> >
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 5:33 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] R: R: What is democracy in a party
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On 2013-01-01 03:40, Moramarco wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ps. dimenticavo prova area pubblica e poi mi si mette in mezzo su
>>>>>> delle affermazioni avvenute sul Forum dove io mi sono registrato e non
>>>>>> sono mai entrato, se avrò fatto un post di saluto è anche troppo...Ma
>>>>>> non credo neanche...Come il tramare contro le leggi italiane e la
>>>>>> costituzione
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ancora saluti
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> greetings to you Mimmo you had just export a screen shot and sent an
>>>>> email with all the user names
>>>>> out of liquid feedback in violation of the law of the privacy so maybe
>>>>> just to make you understand
>>>>> better you will riceive a letter from our lawers that get you in court.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy new year
>>>>>
>>>>> Alv.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlito" <
>>>>>> carlito at subvertising.org>
>>>>>> To: "'Pirate Parties International -- General Talk'"
>>>>>> <pp.international.general@**lists.pirateweb.net<pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [pp.int.general] R: R: What is democracy in a party
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From: lilo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you are the king of the fakes
>>>>>>>> blah
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Alv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you forgot to say what you had done a falsification
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Michele Esterno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tant auguri au frischett
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Italians do it better.
>>>>>>> What a shame.
>>>>>>> How to destroy an interesting conversation about democracy in
>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>> organizations.
>>>>>>> Happy new year!
>>>>>>> Carlito
>>>>>>>
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