[pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two projects

Patrick Maechler v/o Valio pirate at valio.ch
Sat Jan 12 23:09:37 CET 2013


Thanks Dario.
I already setup a pad space on  
https://live-long-and-prosper.piratenpad.de where one can request an  
account.
But I'd like to keep the ball still low for now (e.g. sharing) until  
the host and the domain is up & running and a preliminary index.htm  
can be setup. I already ordered a host, as I wanted it to be separate  
& independent from other projects as of now.

pat


Zitat von Dario <i at dario.im>:

> From Lessig obituary:
> http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully
>
> *Please don?t pathologize this story.*
>>
>> No doubt it is a certain crazy that brings a person as loved as Aaron was
>> loved (and he was surrounded in NY by people who loved him) to do what
>> Aaron did. It angers me that he did what he did. But if we?re going to
>> learn from this, we can?t let slide what brought him here.
>
>
> Sincerely, this doesn't look as a "no one understand me" suicide. I ask
> everybody to skip theorizing and to do something useful as Patrick started.
>
> Patrick, if I can help, count me on board. I can setup a WP or a static
> site for http://live-long-and-prosper.org in my personal server or
> wherever, if you want.
>
>
> 2013/1/12 roberto aka robske <evilteddyxl at gmail.com>
>
>> I think this is not purely related to the internet, but to a certain type
>> of personality. Just look at history and see how many very talented people
>> committed suicide. Its higher than average.
>>
>> I think antonio hits it spot on. These people are often not understood by
>> society, which results in social isolation. And many people can not handle
>> social isolation. This is a pattern not just related to the internet or the
>> last years.
>>
>> - robske/kristi
>> Op 12 jan. 2013 19:42 schreef "Antonio Garcia" <ningunotro at hotmail.com>
>> het volgende:
>>
>>  Maybe because there is nobody to get help from...
>>>
>>> ... once you get tired of not being understood by your peers... they are
>>> part of the problem, not people with a possible solution.
>>>
>>>
>>> The stigmatizing issue... if for those that stay behind. Those that
>>> commit suicide have nothing more to worry about.
>>>
>>> The only solution is being aware ourselves, and being something of a hope
>>> when some is needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Antonio.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:32:47 +0100
>>> > From: jelena.the.one at gmail.com
>>> > To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two
>>> projects
>>> >
>>> > I just don't understand why people don't seek for help instead, but
>>> > really. Depression is light disorder and it can be easily kept
>>> > controlled.
>>> > We have minister of defense here who has much much worse/ more serious
>>> > diagnose, but it didn't stop him to become prime minister also! And ofc
>>> > this information is still on a rumor level /though I am convinced
>>> > public should know about it, sorry for off-topic/.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe the problem is in stigmatizing these people?
>>> >
>>> > Campaign is good thing.  I would love to see it everywhere. Ofc people
>>> > suffer but we have to use this all connected world to increase
>>> > awareness that they are not alone.
>>> >
>>> > JJ
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Patrick Maechler v/o Valio
>>> > <pirate at valio.ch<mailto:pirate at valio.ch>> wrote:
>>> > suicide prevention policies
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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