[pp.int.general] The PIRATE ROUTE

[seykron]

I agree with you in several points: I think real change will come from the
bottom, and I usually argue that a Parliament is the worst place to start
because it's too rigid and fully functional to the Establishment. It's how
things work these times, and it's not possible to introduce high-scale changes
without dealing with the "legal" way, but in my honest opinion it should never
be the main goal of a pirate party.

Regarding your point about a LONG WAY and a SHORT WAY, I think what you name
"SHORT" is not that short, and it's probably longer than the "LONG WAY". No one
is able to suddenly change the society mindset, and anyone who wants to force
social changes will fail unless it uses violence. In the argentinian pirate
party we're discussing about cooperatives and distribution of abandoned
properties as the starting point to build horizontal labour relationships
and spread the culture of friendship and mutual colaboration. But it's not
that easy, it probably cannot be achieved in a "short" time. On the other hard,
we're taking part in the development of a network neutrality law, which is a
parliamentary job and it requires to work together with another parties. That's
not a big deal, but it's something in the middle between do nothing and build
upon unrealistic ideas.

How much is "short" for you?, do you have in mind the steps to carry out what
you consider "the pirate way"?


Matías


On 2013-07-05 07:26:06PM, Danilo D'Antonio wrote:
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> >If you're focused in dealing with real changes and you don't want to
> >participate in the criticism of the movement, it's completely valid and needed, but
> >please consider the whole: in order to introduce REAL changes, to win positions
> >in parliaments and modify some laws is no enough, it's a long-term project that involves
> >political, cultural, historical and philosophical research.
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> Matías and All, excuse my brutality. Excuse, excuse, excuse me.
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> Now, please, consider that YOU have taken the LONG WAY but there is a SHORT WAY that is exactly what the World is waiting for.
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> Pirate Parties are passively pursuing (by following the route of all the other Parties of the Earth) the conquer of Parliaments. Pirate Parties want to be as usual political intermediaries.
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> doesn't matter who conquers the Parliaments! Pirate Parties take another route: they open public jobs to people, to citizens. In this way the citizens can position themselves all around and close to the politicians, all around the Governments.
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> And is CHECKMATE!
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> Politicians can do their WORSE only because of PUBLIC CAREERISTS, of public employees engaged for all their life. Public careerists are open to blackmail. The Elites will win for ever.
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> On the contrary: by having around people who come back simple citizens once finished their temporary job period, politicians are compelled to make their BEST! Citizens are not open to blackmail. The Elites have finished to impose themselves over our World.
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> Send me to fuck how much you wish. I will thank you.
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> But if you want to be TRUE PIRATES you must give to the World the PIRATE ROUTE!
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> To conquer the greatest treasure of our social evolution, doesn't serve we enter into the Parliaments. Once frequented their Res Publicas, citizens will give directly their setting to Parliaments.
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