[pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the pirate ideology?

Zbigniew Łukasiak zzbbyy at gmail.com
Fri Jul 12 16:39:52 CEST 2013


On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Betiel <betielix at gmail.com> wrote:
> What`s the matter if it is leftist or not? The question must be if it will
> be usefull and solve people problems or not. Or if basic incomes should be
> addressed by pirates parties or not. If you see it as a kind of human right
> I believe is a valid pirate topic.
>
> In Argentina we actually have basic income by law. It would be crazy to try
> to change that, except perhaps to ask for a change in the mount due to
> inflation, so we really do not have discussions about it.

Hmm - I am not sure if we are talking about the same thing - I have
not heard about any country implementing the 'unconditional basic
income' - or in other words 'citizen salary'.

Z.


> Personally I believe having a basic income helps to avoid abuses from some
> unethical companies.
>
>
> 2013/7/12 Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
>>
>> Basic income is often mentioned as point of the pirates program.  Do
>> you think it is a universal thing across all pirate parties - or is it
>> just the German pirates that stand strongly behind it?
>>
>> Do you think it is leftist?
>>
>> Personally I support Basic Income.  It might be viewed as slightly
>> leftist - but if it is introduced together with a linear taxation
>> scale and getting rid of unemployment benefits - then it is not
>> leftist at all.  For me the most important aspect of this whole
>> package is that it makes governance simpler.  Taxation is decoupled
>> and can be payed independently for all income sources and the state is
>> not forced to do things that depend too much on personal circumstances
>> (like checking if the person is really unemployed and if he really
>> tries to find a job etc) - state is not good in these - people quickly
>> learn how to fool it and that is demoralizing.  But state is good for
>> universal services - like paying everyone the same amount.  So let the
>> state do what it is good at and let other, smaller organizations do
>> other things.
>>
>> There are of course many other benefits as well - but this is what
>> moves me personally.
>>
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