[pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the pirate ideology?

[Betiel]

2013/7/12 Dario <dario at pirata.cat>

> 2013/7/12 Betiel <betielix at gmail.com>
>
>> What`s the matter if it is leftist or not? The question must be if it
>> will be usefull and solve people problems or not. Or if basic incomes
>> should be addressed by pirates parties or not. If you see it as a kind of
>> human right I believe is a valid pirate topic.
>>
>>
> +1
>
>
>> In Argentina we actually have basic income by law. It would be crazy to
>> try to change that, except perhaps to ask for a change in the mount due to
>> inflation, so we really do not have discussions about it.
>> Personally I believe having a basic income helps to avoid abuses from
>> some unethical companies.
>>
>
> Just to know, basic income in Argentina is unconditional?
>

All people who is employed must be paid more than the basic income.
We also have some plans for all who do not have a work. In that cases the
mount is variable. It depends of how many children you have, etc, etc.
There are some requisits for obtaining those plans. I really do not much
about them. Perhaps another pirate from argentina would like to explain
this point better.

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>> 2013/7/12 Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Basic income is often mentioned as point of the pirates program.  Do
>>> you think it is a universal thing across all pirate parties - or is it
>>> just the German pirates that stand strongly behind it?
>>>
>>
> Just as universal as direct/liquid democracy. Each party have their own
> view (which is great and required because each country is different).
>
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>>
>>> Do you think it is leftist?
>>>
>>
> I don't think so. I found an interesting article about basic income which
> describes three trends that can lead to it, and they are pretty neutral:
> http://simulacrum.cc/2013/07/10/three-trends-that-push-us-towards-an-unconditional-basic-income/
>
>
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> Dario Castañé
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