[pp.int.general] Fwd: Really now?

Patrick Godschalk patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl
Fri Jun 7 14:40:38 CEST 2013


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earlier, my apologies.

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Patrick Godschalk 
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Patrick Godschalk <patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Fwd: Really now?
> Date: June 7, 2013 14:13:44 GMT+02:00
> To: Gregory Engels <gregory.engels at pp-international.net>
> Cc: PPI board <board at pp-international.net>
> 
>> can you please take your time to elaborate, how this is bad, 
>> and how this relate to the website. (you could ask someone 
>> for help who knows how DNS is working to help you, if you 
>> have any troubles)
> 
> Again, I have never said that I'm familiar with how the PPI's 
> network is set up. This is a fault in transparency and also 
> reduces the opportunity for participation. I mean, if I could 
> actually *look* at the way the servers are set up this would 
> be a lot easier from where I'm sitting.
> 
> Impossible? Nope: <https://github.com/piratenpartij/systems>
> 
> REGARDLESS. When I send an e-mail to a PPI board member I 
> shouldn't reasonably expect this to end up on Google's 
> servers. In America. Under the PATRIOT Act. And now in the 
> possession of various intelligence agencies.
> 
> How you fail to see that this is bad thing is, honestly, 
> beyond me.
> 
> 
>> And I delete the reference to the PPI board from this email 
>> tread, as it is irrelevant to our work and distract.
> 
> I'm re-adding it because you, yourself indicated there was a 
> problem with finding resources, monetary or otherwise. This 
> is apparently a problem, and so I want to know how you, the 
> board as a whole plan to resolve this problem.
> 
> This is not distracting, and especially not irrelevant to your 
> work. In fact, it should be the board's *main* area of work, 
> rather than the bureaucratic circle jerk we're in now.
> 
> Now, please reply to the various points in my previous e-mail, 
> particularly the ones that actually mattered:
> 
>> We can continue this bickering back and forth all day. That 
>> doesn't really get anyone anywhere. So, notice above that I'm 
>> at least willing to spend some time for the privacy of the 
>> pirates here (note, not PPI, at this point anymore). The ball 
>> is in your court. Can you tell me how exactly you plan to 
>> remedy this situation?
> 
>> If it's a matter of funding, what's your plan to get more 
>> funding? If it's a matter of volunteers, what's your plan to 
>> draw more people in? If it's neither, then what exactly is the 
>> problem, aside from apathy?
> 
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> Patrick Godschalk 
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