[pp.int.general] Fwd: Really now?

[Antonio Garcia]

Being delusional won't work either.

The lack of adult behaviour has been extensively documented.

This crowds model is kindergarten...

... with some very pragmatic sharks in the pool.


And the usefullness for anyone else but the sharks is tending to zero.


Antonio.


> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 18:34:03 +0200
> From: zzbbyy at gmail.com
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Fwd: Really now?
> 
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Thijs Markus
> <thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl> wrote:
> > There have been two people on this thread alone offering to sort it out -
> > free of charge.
> >
> > However, as admitting there is a problem under your supervision is the first
> > step towards political suicide, and would-be politicians are all around, I
> > dont see these offers being taken up or these issues resolved. This really
> > does need to change - covering your ass from the get go and having that take
> > presidence over the issues at hand. Method: degenerate the discussion into a
> > blame game by absolving yourself at the outset at leaving it at that. Should
> > this be challenged, you then cross your fingers that someone will pop up to
> > restore the sweet and gentle peace while you lay low so you live to bullshit
> > another day. Meanwhile, the issue remains unresolved. Does this all not
> > sound eerily familiar with the failings of our so-called democracy? And
> > sure, you can say I have done my detrimental share to this effect, but I
> > only pick on the people actually politicising every single issue and trying
> > to bullshit their way out of their responsibility, so they dont get spanked
> > for it - hence I spank them anyway on the premise they're doing thus & only
> > by pointing out their methodology.
> 
> spanking does not work here - sorry
> 
> Lets treat each other as an adult.
> 
> Z.
> 
> >
> > Zbigniew Łukasiak schreef op 09.06.2013 13:31:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Pat Mächler
> >> <patrick.maechler at pp-international.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have just scanned through the messages.
> >>> I would just put forward a general note.
> >>> The service with GoogleApps was set up out of convenience before the
> >>> Brussels conference. It was the solution that worked instantly for us,
> >>> was
> >>> usable and did not require a lot of IT work. IMO even though we're a
> >>> political movement that is bound to IT like no other probably, it's
> >>> actually
> >>> not that easy to get hold of people that are capable of setting up the IT
> >>> *and* are willing to provide the required time in the required time span
> >>> for
> >>> free.
> >>
> >>
> >> I kind of agree that this is not an ideal solution - but it is a
> >> practical one.
> >>
> >> There is the expectation that if there is something non-ideal then it
> >> should be changed immediately by The Board.  This is not realistic and
> >> starting long diatribes explaining why it is non-ideal is
> >> counter-productive, because most of us, and The Board probably as
> >> well, do agree that it is not ideal.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Z.
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Zbigniew Lukasiak
> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
> ____________________________________________________
> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
 		 	   		  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/attachments/20130609/3fd5f308/attachment.html>