[pp.int.general] Fwd: Really now?

Zbigniew Łukasiak zzbbyy at gmail.com
Sun Jun 9 18:34:03 CEST 2013


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Thijs Markus
<thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl> wrote:
> There have been two people on this thread alone offering to sort it out -
> free of charge.
>
> However, as admitting there is a problem under your supervision is the first
> step towards political suicide, and would-be politicians are all around, I
> dont see these offers being taken up or these issues resolved. This really
> does need to change - covering your ass from the get go and having that take
> presidence over the issues at hand. Method: degenerate the discussion into a
> blame game by absolving yourself at the outset at leaving it at that. Should
> this be challenged, you then cross your fingers that someone will pop up to
> restore the sweet and gentle peace while you lay low so you live to bullshit
> another day. Meanwhile, the issue remains unresolved. Does this all not
> sound eerily familiar with the failings of our so-called democracy? And
> sure, you can say I have done my detrimental share to this effect, but I
> only pick on the people actually politicising every single issue and trying
> to bullshit their way out of their responsibility, so they dont get spanked
> for it - hence I spank them anyway on the premise they're doing thus & only
> by pointing out their methodology.

spanking does not work here - sorry

Lets treat each other as an adult.

Z.

>
> Zbigniew Łukasiak schreef op 09.06.2013 13:31:
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Pat Mächler
>> <patrick.maechler at pp-international.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have just scanned through the messages.
>>> I would just put forward a general note.
>>> The service with GoogleApps was set up out of convenience before the
>>> Brussels conference. It was the solution that worked instantly for us,
>>> was
>>> usable and did not require a lot of IT work. IMO even though we're a
>>> political movement that is bound to IT like no other probably, it's
>>> actually
>>> not that easy to get hold of people that are capable of setting up the IT
>>> *and* are willing to provide the required time in the required time span
>>> for
>>> free.
>>
>>
>> I kind of agree that this is not an ideal solution - but it is a
>> practical one.
>>
>> There is the expectation that if there is something non-ideal then it
>> should be changed immediately by The Board.  This is not realistic and
>> starting long diatribes explaining why it is non-ideal is
>> counter-productive, because most of us, and The Board probably as
>> well, do agree that it is not ideal.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Z.
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