[pp.int.general] GA Rules of Procedure

[kenneth at pirata.cat]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:47:16 +0100, Maxime Rouquet
<maxime.rouquet at partipirate.org> wrote:

>> 7. The Catalan membership.  This have been discussed to death.  I am
>> not against Catalans, and I would like that this was resolved
>> according to the statutes and without juggling with word semantics.
>> This is also a practical lessons for us why we need precise language
>> and why we need to look at other statutes and copy the formulations -
>> for international organisations it is common to use 'sovereign state'
>> instead of 'country' exactly because of the lack of precision in the
>> second case.
> 
> We should replace the word "country" by "sovereign state", adopt the
> Catalonia amendment that extends the federation point of the statutes to
> a confederation system, and then ask the Spanish Pirate Parties to agree
> on how they want to unite in front of the international pirate
community.

That is exactly what we wanted since our birth, back on 2010: a
confederacy as ordinary member and PP-ES and PP-CAT (if wished) as observer
members.

However, the famous 4 trolls from PP-ES had been blocking any agreement
since then, and the result has been that their own members and even board
members and presidents had left the party to create a new regional party
and to add to the Confederation.

Right now we're ending its statutes, and as stated by our pals from
PP-Galicia and PP-Madrid we'll get it registered before this summer. In
short: every party will have a vote power proportional to their votes in
their best election in the last 4 years (and square rooted in the meantime,
so PP-CAT doesn't get a majority on its own).


All we (PP-CAT/MAD/EXT/RIO/GAL + two more comming soon) agree that each
party should represent its voters, and that every party's decision must be
made by all its members, so, we'll be representing direct member
participation as much as possible.


However, PP-ES (trolls) say  that the roadmap must start with
PP-CAT/EXT/MAD/GAL/RIO dissolution and that , and that they should get
around 80% of the decision power, as they believe in their imaginary world
that they represent all Spain, even regions where they just have 1 member
and it's not even active... So, there's nothing to deal with talibans and
other irrational people.

PP-ES has less than 100 members, the confederacy has more than 1200 (and
at least 1/3 of PP-ES members are also members of a regional party, so
figure out).

We (ALL the members of the confederacy, most of them "flying away from
PP-ES") are going to try for the 9th time in these 3 years to get PP-ES
working with all us in this project.

If, as expected, they refuse to cooperate and/or they simply don't vote it
(as they never did before), we'll formally ask PPI to remove PP-ES's
ordinary membership and to give it to the confederacy, as the Confederacy
is the ONLY organization with active pirate members running for elections
and starting/creating projects in Spain.



Remember that PP-ES was only able to run for elections twice, in 2 cities
and in 4 of the lesser populated provinces of Spain (Spain has 54
provinces, so figure out). Moreover, PP-ES got only the 10% of the Pirate
votes in Spain, whilst all the rest was made by PP-CAT and PP-GAL.

If PP-ES doesn't want to cooperate and keeps on deleting from their
records "annoying people" that tries to cooperate with the other 5 PP's in
Spain (in a completely illegal way).

Moreover, their PP-ES's PR sucks. Figure out, SGAE (Spanish RIAA) uses
PP-ES's tweets to defend their points ... Facepalm+++


I repeat, PP-ES doesn't work and it never did. From the last 3 PP-ES
presidents, 1 left the party and the other two founded PP-Extremadura and
PP-Madrid and are active members of the confederacy.



In fact, PP-ES membership in PPI is ILLEGAL for the following reasons, and
if the CoA were still working, I'd love to fill this complaint:

Back in 2010, I was PP-ES's delegate for the foundation of PPI. There
PP-ES voted YES to create PPI, and, as stated in that GA, it was compulsory
that every party ratified it on its own assembly.

1) PP-ES HAS NEVER RATIFIED THEIR BELONGING TO PPI, so, it expired and, by
rules, it must not be a member anymore.
2) My signature might appear in the original PPI statutes, however, it's
not there, that's not my signature, just my name, so you don't even have
the legal signature of the delegate: no signature, no membership.
 

Regards,

Kenneth