[pp.int.general] Pirate Academy / Workshops

Fri Nov 22 11:37:35 CET 2013

Sorry I don't know about diplomas or the price of them but I am sure there
is plenty of discussion online.
All online classes I have signed up to have been free of charge.

If you want my opinion on how they are going to make money of it, than I
think that accumulating content and users is key in order to become the go
to resource. The Google of education so to speak. It's common practice.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES <aurelien at xload.io>wrote:

>
> "Not reinvent the wheel" Yes, but improve it if possible.
>
> An academy is interesting for the quality and the true value of the
> diploma and the courses you can get.
>
> Coursera is really great, but the diploma are really expensive and most
> of them are not necesserly recognize everywhere.
>
> Does a partnership wit UNESCO should be a part of the value of the
> diploma?
>
> Does that diploma will have a value all arround the world?
>
> How does that diploma will cost exactly for the student?
>
> If it cost $0 for the student, how does that courses + diploma will cost
> for the organisation?
>
> RMS, one day told me something approximativly saying ::
>
> Ideas are great but who, how ... (which ressources)?
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Martin Stolze <pirate.martin at stolze.cc> writes:
>
> > I like the idea a lot and I also floated the idea of Pirate learning
> group
> > once that failed because participation needs time that is really hard to
> > come by ...
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108317323951354909245
> >
> > 2 Points, in order to not reinvent the wheel
> >
> > 1. There are already platforms that cater to this, Coursera, Udacity etc.
> > which are very well done
> > - What would it take to set up a class on one of these?
> > 2. Why not engage collectively into what is offered already. Maybe that
> > makes for a good start : https://www.coursera.org/course/changetheworld
> > Tapping into education proactively is just a new vector that online
> classes
> > offer. I suppose campaigning can be very efficient if approached
> thoroughly
> > in virtual classrooms.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Daniel Riaño <danielrr2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> http://escueladepirateria.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >> Not a lot of activity lately, though :(
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/11/21 roberto aka robske <evilteddyxl at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> I support Thijs' proposal.
> >>>
> >>> @Jelena: Your statement has valid concerns, but does immediately raise
> >>> new questions:
> >>> 1. How would you define 'disrupte elements' without allowing for abuse
> of
> >>> this definition? The term 'disruptive element' is as vague as the word
> >>> 'terrorist' is.
> >>> 2. considering that 'disruptive element' is a very vague term, are we
> >>> even willing to exclude people by certain vaguely described
> characteristics?
> >>>
> >>> In my opinion, blocking people from these events, even when knowing
> that
> >>> they will disrupt the process, is something you do not want to do and
> opens
> >>> up a door of more abuse of this. A process has to be resilient against
> >>> this. Hiding it from people who could disrupt it is counterproductive
> and
> >>> feeds them with even more ammunition.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Jelena Jovanovic <
> >>> jelena.the.one at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I totally support this sharing of knowledge
> >>>>
> >>>> only I would like to avoid teaching disruptive elements like neonazis
> ;P
> >>>> how to run a successful campaign or how to develop message that
> resonates.
> >>>>
> >>>> occupy tried similar thing....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Simon Frew <
> >>>> simon.frew at pirateparty.org.au> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yeah I like the idea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Could record them and put them up somewhere too so time differences
> >>>>> don't cause people to miss out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 21 November 2013 21:13, Thijs Markus <
> thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> For a while now I've been walking around with the idea to set up
> >>>>>> something of a pirate academy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The basic idea is that we put up a livestream with someone giving a
> >>>>>> workshop regarding an issue, which could be nearly anything, and
> people can
> >>>>>> tune in, learn, and ask questions. The content could be nearly
> anything:
> >>>>>> how does one campaign effectively? How does wipo actually work?
> What are
> >>>>>> the details regarding issue X or Y? There is a lot of information
> sharing
> >>>>>> which simply doesn't happen effectively between us as is, and I
> hope such a
> >>>>>> format would help foster it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So we make a sort of online college room where we can all tune in
> and
> >>>>>> learn these things from those amongst us who can teach the rest of
> us at a
> >>>>>> set date. I'm pretty sure everyone here has something to add to our
> >>>>>> collective understanding.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For now, this email is primarily a feeler email: who would be
> >>>>>> interested here in giving such workshops? Who would like to help me
> set up
> >>>>>> the aforementioned infrastructure? Who has an even better idea of
> how to
> >>>>>> realise this than the aforementioned online college?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let's get started doing that bit we're allegedly have international
> >>>>>> co-operation for: sharing knowledge and best practices.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope you'll give it some thought,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ikke
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Simon Frew
> >>>>> President
> >>>>> Pirate Party Australia
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> W: http://www.pirateparty.org.au
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> >>>>> T: @AKFRU
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Roberto Moretti
> >>>
> >>> PPNL Member & Indie Games Developer.
> >>> @robskemoretti
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>
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> --
> Aurélien DESBRIÈRES
> Run Free - Run GNU.org
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