[pp.int.general] Pirate Academy / Workshops (PT)

Josef Ohlsson Collentine josef at piratetimes.net
Sat Nov 23 02:16:39 CET 2013 

Hi,

if you do move forward with this project Pirate Times (or PPI) could
probably host the content and results of each work-shop.

If some people are interested in writing about any topic related to a
pirate academy, such as "how to run a campaign" we're always open for guest
posts at Pirate Times.

Kindly,
Josef


On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:36 AM, <
pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net> wrote:

> Send pp.international.general mailing list submissions to
>         pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         pp.international.general-owner at lists.pirateweb.net
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of pp.international.general digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Pirate Academy / Workshops (Martin Stolze)
>    2. Re: Pirate Academy / Workshops
>       (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_DESBRI=C3=88RES?=)
>    3. Re: Pirate Academy / Workshops (Martin Stolze)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:21:55 +0100
> From: Martin Stolze <pirate.martin at stolze.cc>
> To: danielrr2 at gmail.com, Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>         <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Pirate Academy / Workshops
> Message-ID:
>         <CAOyfL0rUhd=
> USOs4+1+om57dUWRvo-j0OiL2jvh3z8TgSgJaYQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I like the idea a lot and I also floated the idea of Pirate learning group
> once that failed because participation needs time that is really hard to
> come by ... https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108317323951354909245
>
> 2 Points, in order to not reinvent the wheel
>
> 1. There are already platforms that cater to this, Coursera, Udacity etc.
> which are very well done
> - What would it take to set up a class on one of these?
> 2. Why not engage collectively into what is offered already. Maybe that
> makes for a good start : https://www.coursera.org/course/changetheworld
> Tapping into education proactively is just a new vector that online classes
> offer. I suppose campaigning can be very efficient if approached thoroughly
> in virtual classrooms.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Daniel Ria?o <danielrr2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > http://escueladepirateria.wordpress.com/
> >
> > Not a lot of activity lately, though :(
> >
> >
> > 2013/11/21 roberto aka robske <evilteddyxl at gmail.com>
> >
> >> I support Thijs' proposal.
> >>
> >> @Jelena: Your statement has valid concerns, but does immediately raise
> >> new questions:
> >> 1. How would you define 'disrupte elements' without allowing for abuse
> of
> >> this definition? The term 'disruptive element' is as vague as the word
> >> 'terrorist' is.
> >> 2. considering that 'disruptive element' is a very vague term, are we
> >> even willing to exclude people by certain vaguely described
> characteristics?
> >>
> >> In my opinion, blocking people from these events, even when knowing that
> >> they will disrupt the process, is something you do not want to do and
> opens
> >> up a door of more abuse of this. A process has to be resilient against
> >> this. Hiding it from people who could disrupt it is counterproductive
> and
> >> feeds them with even more ammunition.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Jelena Jovanovic <
> >> jelena.the.one at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I totally support this sharing of knowledge
> >>>
> >>> only I would like to avoid teaching disruptive elements like neonazis
> ;P
> >>> how to run a successful campaign or how to develop message that
> resonates.
> >>>
> >>> occupy tried similar thing....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Simon Frew <
> >>> simon.frew at pirateparty.org.au> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah I like the idea.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could record them and put them up somewhere too so time differences
> >>>> don't cause people to miss out.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 21 November 2013 21:13, Thijs Markus <
> thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> For a while now I've been walking around with the idea to set up
> >>>>> something of a pirate academy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The basic idea is that we put up a livestream with someone giving a
> >>>>> workshop regarding an issue, which could be nearly anything, and
> people can
> >>>>> tune in, learn, and ask questions. The content could be nearly
> anything:
> >>>>> how does one campaign effectively? How does wipo actually work? What
> are
> >>>>> the details regarding issue X or Y? There is a lot of information
> sharing
> >>>>> which simply doesn't happen effectively between us as is, and I hope
> such a
> >>>>> format would help foster it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So we make a sort of online college room where we can all tune in and
> >>>>> learn these things from those amongst us who can teach the rest of
> us at a
> >>>>> set date. I'm pretty sure everyone here has something to add to our
> >>>>> collective understanding.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For now, this email is primarily a feeler email: who would be
> >>>>> interested here in giving such workshops? Who would like to help me
> set up
> >>>>> the aforementioned infrastructure? Who has an even better idea of
> how to
> >>>>> realise this than the aforementioned online college?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let's get started doing that bit we're allegedly have international
> >>>>> co-operation for: sharing knowledge and best practices.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope you'll give it some thought,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ikke
> >>>>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Simon Frew
> >>>> President
> >>>> Pirate Party Australia
> >>>>
> >>>> M: +61 439408314
> >>>> W: http://www.pirateparty.org.au
> >>>> E: simon.frew at pirateparty.org.au
> >>>> T: @AKFRU
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Pirate Party Australia is a political party based around the core
> >>>> tenets of
> >>>> freedom of information and culture; civil and digital liberties;
> privacy
> >>>> and anonymity; government transparency and participation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Donate today! http://pirateparty.org.au/donate
> >>>>
> >>>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________
> >>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Roberto Moretti
> >>
> >> PPNL Member & Indie Games Developer.
> >> @robskemoretti
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>
> >>
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/attachments/20131122/1b218bfa/attachment-0001.html
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:43:48 +0100
> From: aurelien at xload.io (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_DESBRI=C3=88RES?=)
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>         <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Pirate Academy / Workshops
> Message-ID: <878uwgai0b.fsf at unicorn.home>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
> "Not reinvent the wheel" Yes, but improve it if possible.
>
> An academy is interesting for the quality and the true value of the
> diploma and the courses you can get.
>
> Coursera is really great, but the diploma are really expensive and most
> of them are not necesserly recognize everywhere.
>
> Does a partnership wit UNESCO should be a part of the value of the
> diploma?
>
> Does that diploma will have a value all arround the world?
>
> How does that diploma will cost exactly for the student?
>
> If it cost $0 for the student, how does that courses + diploma will cost
> for the organisation?
>
> RMS, one day told me something approximativly saying ::
>
> Ideas are great but who, how ... (which ressources)?
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Martin Stolze <pirate.martin at stolze.cc> writes:
>
> > I like the idea a lot and I also floated the idea of Pirate learning
> group
> > once that failed because participation needs time that is really hard to
> > come by ...
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108317323951354909245
> >
> > 2 Points, in order to not reinvent the wheel
> >
> > 1. There are already platforms that cater to this, Coursera, Udacity etc.
> > which are very well done
> > - What would it take to set up a class on one of these?
> > 2. Why not engage collectively into what is offered already. Maybe that
> > makes for a good start : https://www.coursera.org/course/changetheworld
> > Tapping into education proactively is just a new vector that online
> classes
> > offer. I suppose campaigning can be very efficient if approached
> thoroughly
> > in virtual classrooms.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Daniel Ria?o <danielrr2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> http://escueladepirateria.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >> Not a lot of activity lately, though :(
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/11/21 roberto aka robske <evilteddyxl at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> I support Thijs' proposal.
> >>>
> >>> @Jelena: Your statement has valid concerns, but does immediately raise
> >>> new questions:
> >>> 1. How would you define 'disrupte elements' without allowing for abuse
> of
> >>> this definition? The term 'disruptive element' is as vague as the word
> >>> 'terrorist' is.
> >>> 2. considering that 'disruptive element' is a very vague term, are we
> >>> even willing to exclude people by certain vaguely described
> characteristics?
> >>>
> >>> In my opinion, blocking people from these events, even when knowing
> that
> >>> they will disrupt the process, is something you do not want to do and
> opens
> >>> up a door of more abuse of this. A process has to be resilient against
> >>> this. Hiding it from people who could disrupt it is counterproductive
> and
> >>> feeds them with even more ammunition.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Jelena Jovanovic <
> >>> jelena.the.one at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I totally support this sharing of knowledge
> >>>>
> >>>> only I would like to avoid teaching disruptive elements like neonazis
> ;P
> >>>> how to run a successful campaign or how to develop message that
> resonates.
> >>>>
> >>>> occupy tried similar thing....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Simon Frew <
> >>>> simon.frew at pirateparty.org.au> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yeah I like the idea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Could record them and put them up somewhere too so time differences
> >>>>> don't cause people to miss out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 21 November 2013 21:13, Thijs Markus <
> thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> For a while now I've been walking around with the idea to set up
> >>>>>> something of a pirate academy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The basic idea is that we put up a livestream with someone giving a
> >>>>>> workshop regarding an issue, which could be nearly anything, and
> people can
> >>>>>> tune in, learn, and ask questions. The content could be nearly
> anything:
> >>>>>> how does one campaign effectively? How does wipo actually work?
> What are
> >>>>>> the details regarding issue X or Y? There is a lot of information
> sharing
> >>>>>> which simply doesn't happen effectively between us as is, and I
> hope such a
> >>>>>> format would help foster it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So we make a sort of online college room where we can all tune in
> and
> >>>>>> learn these things from those amongst us who can teach the rest of
> us at a
> >>>>>> set date. I'm pretty sure everyone here has something to add to our
> >>>>>> collective understanding.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For now, this email is primarily a feeler email: who would be
> >>>>>> interested here in giving such workshops? Who would like to help me
> set up
> >>>>>> the aforementioned infrastructure? Who has an even better idea of
> how to
> >>>>>> realise this than the aforementioned online college?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let's get started doing that bit we're allegedly have international
> >>>>>> co-operation for: sharing knowledge and best practices.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope you'll give it some thought,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ikke
> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>>>>>
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Simon Frew
> >>>>> President
> >>>>> Pirate Party Australia
> >>>>>
> >>>>> M: +61 439408314
> >>>>> W: http://www.pirateparty.org.au
> >>>>> E: simon.frew at pirateparty.org.au
> >>>>> T: @AKFRU
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Pirate Party Australia is a political party based around the core
> >>>>> tenets of
> >>>>> freedom of information and culture; civil and digital liberties;
> privacy
> >>>>> and anonymity; government transparency and participation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Donate today! http://pirateparty.org.au/donate
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Roberto Moretti
> >>>
> >>> PPNL Member & Indie Games Developer.
> >>> @robskemoretti
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________
> >>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>
> >>
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>
> --
> Aur?lien DESBRI?RES
> Run Free - Run GNU.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:37:35 +0100
> From: Martin Stolze <pirate.martin at stolze.cc>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>         <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Pirate Academy / Workshops
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAOyfL0o1-cbNnsPHp-FwXSBg1WC2ay6fBTOM-NZSjNVeaW5cCw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Sorry I don't know about diplomas or the price of them but I am sure there
> is plenty of discussion online.
> All online classes I have signed up to have been free of charge.
>
> If you want my opinion on how they are going to make money of it, than I
> think that accumulating content and users is key in order to become the go
> to resource. The Google of education so to speak. It's common practice.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Aur?lien DESBRI?RES <aurelien at xload.io
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > "Not reinvent the wheel" Yes, but improve it if possible.
> >
> > An academy is interesting for the quality and the true value of the
> > diploma and the courses you can get.
> >
> > Coursera is really great, but the diploma are really expensive and most
> > of them are not necesserly recognize everywhere.
> >
> > Does a partnership wit UNESCO should be a part of the value of the
> > diploma?
> >
> > Does that diploma will have a value all arround the world?
> >
> > How does that diploma will cost exactly for the student?
> >
> > If it cost $0 for the student, how does that courses + diploma will cost
> > for the organisation?
> >
> > RMS, one day told me something approximativly saying ::
> >
> > Ideas are great but who, how ... (which ressources)?
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Martin Stolze <pirate.martin at stolze.cc> writes:
> >
> > > I like the idea a lot and I also floated the idea of Pirate learning
> > group
> > > once that failed because participation needs time that is really hard
> to
> > > come by ...
> > https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108317323951354909245
> > >
> > > 2 Points, in order to not reinvent the wheel
> > >
> > > 1. There are already platforms that cater to this, Coursera, Udacity
> etc.
> > > which are very well done
> > > - What would it take to set up a class on one of these?
> > > 2. Why not engage collectively into what is offered already. Maybe that
> > > makes for a good start :
> https://www.coursera.org/course/changetheworld
> > > Tapping into education proactively is just a new vector that online
> > classes
> > > offer. I suppose campaigning can be very efficient if approached
> > thoroughly
> > > in virtual classrooms.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Daniel Ria?o <danielrr2 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://escueladepirateria.wordpress.com/
> > >>
> > >> Not a lot of activity lately, though :(
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2013/11/21 roberto aka robske <evilteddyxl at gmail.com>
> > >>
> > >>> I support Thijs' proposal.
> > >>>
> > >>> @Jelena: Your statement has valid concerns, but does immediately
> raise
> > >>> new questions:
> > >>> 1. How would you define 'disrupte elements' without allowing for
> abuse
> > of
> > >>> this definition? The term 'disruptive element' is as vague as the
> word
> > >>> 'terrorist' is.
> > >>> 2. considering that 'disruptive element' is a very vague term, are we
> > >>> even willing to exclude people by certain vaguely described
> > characteristics?
> > >>>
> > >>> In my opinion, blocking people from these events, even when knowing
> > that
> > >>> they will disrupt the process, is something you do not want to do and
> > opens
> > >>> up a door of more abuse of this. A process has to be resilient
> against
> > >>> this. Hiding it from people who could disrupt it is counterproductive
> > and
> > >>> feeds them with even more ammunition.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Jelena Jovanovic <
> > >>> jelena.the.one at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I totally support this sharing of knowledge
> > >>>>
> > >>>> only I would like to avoid teaching disruptive elements like
> neonazis
> > ;P
> > >>>> how to run a successful campaign or how to develop message that
> > resonates.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> occupy tried similar thing....
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Simon Frew <
> > >>>> simon.frew at pirateparty.org.au> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Yeah I like the idea.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Could record them and put them up somewhere too so time differences
> > >>>>> don't cause people to miss out.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 21 November 2013 21:13, Thijs Markus <
> > thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl>wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> For a while now I've been walking around with the idea to set up
> > >>>>>> something of a pirate academy.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The basic idea is that we put up a livestream with someone giving
> a
> > >>>>>> workshop regarding an issue, which could be nearly anything, and
> > people can
> > >>>>>> tune in, learn, and ask questions. The content could be nearly
> > anything:
> > >>>>>> how does one campaign effectively? How does wipo actually work?
> > What are
> > >>>>>> the details regarding issue X or Y? There is a lot of information
> > sharing
> > >>>>>> which simply doesn't happen effectively between us as is, and I
> > hope such a
> > >>>>>> format would help foster it.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So we make a sort of online college room where we can all tune in
> > and
> > >>>>>> learn these things from those amongst us who can teach the rest of
> > us at a
> > >>>>>> set date. I'm pretty sure everyone here has something to add to
> our
> > >>>>>> collective understanding.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> For now, this email is primarily a feeler email: who would be
> > >>>>>> interested here in giving such workshops? Who would like to help
> me
> > set up
> > >>>>>> the aforementioned infrastructure? Who has an even better idea of
> > how to
> > >>>>>> realise this than the aforementioned online college?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Let's get started doing that bit we're allegedly have
> international
> > >>>>>> co-operation for: sharing knowledge and best practices.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hope you'll give it some thought,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ikke
> > >>>>>> ____________________________________________________
> > >>>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > >>>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > >>>>>>
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Simon Frew
> > >>>>> President
> > >>>>> Pirate Party Australia
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> M: +61 439408314
> > >>>>> W: http://www.pirateparty.org.au
> > >>>>> E: simon.frew at pirateparty.org.au
> > >>>>> T: @AKFRU
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Pirate Party Australia is a political party based around the core
> > >>>>> tenets of
> > >>>>> freedom of information and culture; civil and digital liberties;
> > privacy
> > >>>>> and anonymity; government transparency and participation.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Donate today! http://pirateparty.org.au/donate
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ____________________________________________________
> > >>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > >>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > >>>>>
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ____________________________________________________
> > >>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > >>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > >>>>
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Roberto Moretti
> > >>>
> > >>> PPNL Member & Indie Games Developer.
> > >>> @robskemoretti
> > >>>
> > >>> ____________________________________________________
> > >>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > >>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > >>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> ____________________________________________________
> > >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> > >>
> > >>
> > > ____________________________________________________
> > > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
> > --
> > Aur?lien DESBRI?RES
> > Run Free - Run GNU.org
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/attachments/20131122/674ac5cb/attachment.html
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> pp.international.general mailing list
> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>
>
> End of pp.international.general Digest, Vol 81, Issue 20
> ********************************************************
>



-- 
*Organizational Administrator for Pirate Times *http://piratetimes.net
Contact me for any questions or concerns and I will do my best to help you.
Also working as International Contact for PPSE.

*Other contact:*
Skype: josef.ohlsson.collentine
Twitter: @collentine
Cel: +52 55 48 23 52 83 (+52 is code for Mexico)
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/attachments/20131122/7960c464/attachment-0001.html>

More information about the pp.international.general mailing list