[pp.int.general] Fwd: [liberationtech] Neelie Kroes: "Internet Governance: I want your views!"

Sat Oct 12 20:52:03 CEST 2013

" We have heard about *massive surveillance operations by secret services*
, "

come on, everything is doxed.

I don't believe we can help them without giving them legitimacy for
terrible things that will happen with internet governance

Having in mind that Nellie Kroes really believes that UN should regulate
the internet, I advise not to take part in this conversation.

THEY HAVE HEARD. Seriously?

Give my best regards to Dgt Agenda and make them do their own research.
After all they are payed for that.

where to starz - hint: European Court for Human Rights

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Scott Elcomb <psema4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Copy & Seed  :)
> - Scott
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <Andrea.GLORIOSO at ec.europa.eu>
> Date: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:13 AM
> Subject: [liberationtech] Neelie Kroes: "Internet Governance: I want your
> views!"
> To: Andrea.GLORIOSO at ec.europa.eu
>
>
>  [* Apologies if you receive duplicates. Please do share this message
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>
> Dear colleagues, dear friends,
>
> I would like to share with you the recent blog post by Neelie Kroes, Vice
> President of the European Commission and Commissioner for the Digital
> Agenda, on Internet Governance.
>
> The blog post is accessible at *
> http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/internet-governance-i-want-your-views
> *<http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/internet-governance-i-want-your-views>and also reproduced below for ease of reference. Vice-President Kroes
> highlights some of her key thoughts on the main challenges for the
> governance of the Internet and calls upon everyone to share their views on
> how the Internet should be governed and what Europe's role should be. Such
> online engagement will take place via the Digital Agenda website at *
> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-global-context
> *<https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-global-context>.
>
>
> Importantly, as part of this online engagement a discussion paper was
> produced and put online at *
> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/sites/digital-agenda/files/131007%20public%20questions%20formatted.pdf
> *<https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/sites/digital-agenda/files/131007%20public%20questions%20formatted.pdf>
> .
>
> I would encourage all of you to express your views.
>
> +++
>
> *Internet Governance: I want your views! *
>  <http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/users/neelie-kroes>
> Published by *Neelie KROES*<http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/users/neelie-kroes>on Wednesday, 09/10/2013
> As digital agenda commissioner I have long fought hard to keep *the
> Internet driving positive change *- helping Europe's economy and society.
> And now we are asking for *your views on internet governance*<https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-global-context>
> .
> I have fought especially hard for an open Internet. As a network of
> networks, *no one person or country owns the Internet*, but we do need *a
> clear set of rules that everybody needs to play by*. I have defended such
> rules at international conferences on the Internet, most recently at the
> Internet Governance Forum in Baku – and, in particular, *resisted attempts
> * <http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-12-922_en.htm> by others to
> push for significant increases to the scope of International Telecoms
> Regulations at the recent WCIT meeting in Dubai.
> But since then a lot of things have happened. We have heard about *massive
> surveillance operations by secret services*, within Europe as well as the
> US. Of course we are extremely concerned by what that means for personal
> data protection. But this also has *deep implications for the governance
> of the Internet*. It is clearly influencing how *some international
> partners are thinking*<http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45955&Cr=General+Debate&Cr1=>.
> And it is even more important now that we agree on common principles for
> Internet governance, and how decisions are made in all Internet-related
> matters.
> This autumn will be crucial in many ways. In Europe, I am proposing
> ambitious measures to bring down barriers within our *connected continent*<http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/building-connected-continent>.
> That's a priority for me, and a priority for our economic future, which I
> hope EU leaders will take seriously at their *forthcoming summit*<http://www.european-council.europa.eu/council-meetings?meeting=760391ff-5b52-4248-a076-5032044c6288&lang=en&type=EuropeanCouncil>
> .
> But, at the same time as we bring those barriers down, *I want to avoid
> new ones going up*. Later this month, Internet world leaders are meeting
> at the *Internet Governance Forum* <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/> in
> Bali. I am sorry that, for the first time, I cannot be there in person
> myself. But I would like to contribute, both to make clear how closely and
> seriously we are watching this debate, and to stress the importance of
> having a clear and robust framework for Internet Governance and
> policy-making as soon as possible.
> As it stands today, the conclusions of the World Summit on the Information
> Society (WSIS) are the only international-level political agreement on
> Internet governance; and they are the subject of several consultations.
> Particularly important among those consultations are the discussions in the
> *"WSIS+10" High-Level Event* <http://www.itu.int/wsis/review/mpp/>, and
> the *UN Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation*<http://unctad.org/en/Pages/cstd.aspx>;
> I hope many of you will be contributing.
> *The Internet is increasingly the forum for so much of our lives*; from
> transacting through commerce or banking; to interacting through social
> networks; to communicating with governments or pushing for democratic
> change. It's clear to me that the Internet is a European strategic domain –
> and, although the internet is a different kind of place to the "real
> world",  our stance towards it should be underpinned by just the same
> values, priorities and interests as everything else.
> This digital age needs *a new social contract. *Decisions that affect the
> Internet shouldn't be taken just by politicians, companies or technicians
> alone, without any reference to common principles.
> So I believe that the new social contract *must be based on sound
> principles*. My starting point here are those in the *Compact*<http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/blog/i-propose-a-compact-for-the-internet>I first floated a couple of years ago; like that the Internet should remain
> open, unified, pro-democratic, enabling trust and confidence, and based on
> transparent, multi-stakeholder governance. Recent news shows just how
> fragile this balance of values can be; important efforts to tackle
> terrorist threats cannot be at the expense of fundamental freedoms.
> But we also must have a clearer view of *what we mean when we speak of
> "multi-stakeholder processes"*. I worry that without a clear definition,
> everyone will claim that their decision processes are inclusive and
> transparent, when in practice they are not – as was shown recently, when
> the Governmental Advisory Committee of ICANN pressed on regardless - in
> spite of the EU's *legitimate concerns*<http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/kroes-to-chehade-crocker-12sep13-en.pdf>on new domain names.
> As you may have seen, Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff recently set out
> her *strong belief in multi-lateral cooperation*<http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45955&Cr=General+Debate&Cr1=>as a basis for Internet governance. I am looking forward to seeing further
> details – but in principle I very much support that line. Plus, our future
> *Global Internet Policy Observatory*<http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/blog/gipo>will help give a more balanced view of how the Internet should be governed.
> And I know many of these issues will also be discussed in Bali.
> But I want to take this seriously. These are my thoughts*: but I want
> yours too; your ideas on how the Internet should be governed and what
> Europe's role should be*.
> For the next four weeks, please share your views on the dedicated *web
> page*<https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-global-context>
> .
> +++
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Andrea Glorioso (Mr)
> European Commission - DG Communication Networks, Content and Technology
> Unit D1 (International relations) + Task Force on Internet Policy
> Development
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