[pp.int.general] Fwd: [liberationtech] Neelie Kroes: "Internet Governance: I want your views!"
Jelena Jovanovic
jelena.the.one at gmail.com
Mon Oct 14 11:38:20 CEST 2013
not in the mood for shilly talks
sry.
we have MEPs who can talk to Dgt Agenda, I don't see any reason to
volunteer as researcher for them. Yes everything is online.
Brgds
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES <aurelien at xload.io> wrote:
>
> "Smartphone are the Stalin's dream"--RMS
>
> Why should we not take part of this conversation?
>
> The Pirate Party have been created for a part because of that spy habits
> that have some people to not trust their people.
>
> We have to get part of the discussion and bring the discussion to the
> true, that first of all if United Nations decide to make the job they
> will have:
> . first give all a Human Earth Passport.
> . offer to UNESCO all servers they need to share all form of knowledge
> arround the world for free in price and freedom (including music and
> movie)
> . offer the warranty of freedom to all on the network and sufficient
> cryptographic solution to not be track by his own governement nor
> anyother.
> . abolish privative licenses
> . + add your ideas ...
>
> We have to use that opportunity to get a place at the United Nations, to
> make what we have to do, the things that is why we have join the Pirate
> Party.
>
> "Everything is doxed", is it a reason to do nothing? to offer our data
> easely by using gmail and google service or microsoft or apple stuff?
>
> Maybe when RMS say "Free Software, Free Society!" it's not just a trick
> of words.
>
> Is it because "Everythang's Corrupt" --Ice Cube that we do not have to
> do anymore things ?
>
> --
> aurelien
>
>
> Jelena Jovanovic <jelena.the.one at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> " We have heard about massive surveillance operations by secret
>> services, "
>>
>> come on, everything is doxed.
>>
>> I don't believe we can help them without giving them legitimacy for
>> terrible things that will happen with internet governance
>>
>> Having in mind that Nellie Kroes really believes that UN should
>> regulate the internet, I advise not to take part in this conversation.
>>
>> THEY HAVE HEARD. Seriously?
>>
>> Give my best regards to Dgt Agenda and make them do their own
>> research. After all they are payed for that.
>>
>> where to starz - hint: European Court for Human Rights
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Scott Elcomb <psema4 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Copy & Seed :)
>>
>> - Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: <Andrea.GLORIOSO at ec.europa.eu>
>> Date: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:13 AM
>> Subject: [liberationtech] Neelie Kroes: "Internet Governance: I
>> want your views!"
>> To: Andrea.GLORIOSO at ec.europa.eu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [ Apologies if you receive duplicates. Please do share this
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>>
>> Dear colleagues, dear friends,
>>
>> I would like to share with you the recent blog post by Neelie
>> Kroes, Vice President of the European Commission and Commissioner
>> for the Digital Agenda, on Internet Governance.
>>
>> The blog post is accessible at
>> http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/internet-
>> governance-i-want-your-views and also reproduced below for ease of
>> reference. Vice-President Kroes highlights some of her key
>> thoughts on the main challenges for the governance of the Internet
>> and calls upon everyone to share their views on how the Internet
>> should be governed and what Europe's role should be. Such online
>> engagement will take place via the Digital Agenda website at
>> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-
>> global-context.
>>
>> Importantly, as part of this online engagement a discussion paper
>> was produced and put online at
>> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/sites/digital-agenda/files/131007%20public%20questions%20formatted.
>> pdf.
>>
>> I would encourage all of you to express your views.
>>
>> +++
>>
>> Internet Governance: I want your views!
>>
>> Published by Neelie KROES on Wednesday, 09/10/2013
>> As digital agenda commissioner I have long fought hard to keep the
>> Internet driving positive change - helping Europe's economy and
>> society. And now we are asking for your views on internet
>> governance.
>> I have fought especially hard for an open Internet. As a network
>> of networks, no one person or country owns the Internet, but we do
>> need a clear set of rules that everybody needs to play by. I have
>> defended such rules at international conferences on the Internet,
>> most recently at the Internet Governance Forum in Baku – and, in
>> particular, resisted attempts by others to push for significant
>> increases to the scope of International Telecoms Regulations at
>> the recent WCIT meeting in Dubai.
>> But since then a lot of things have happened. We have heard about
>> massive surveillance operations by secret services, within Europe
>> as well as the US. Of course we are extremely concerned by what
>> that means for personal data protection. But this also has deep
>> implications for the governance of the Internet. It is clearly
>> influencing how some international partners are thinking. And it
>> is even more important now that we agree on common principles for
>> Internet governance, and how decisions are made in all
>> Internet-related matters.
>> This autumn will be crucial in many ways. In Europe, I am
>> proposing ambitious measures to bring down barriers within our
>> connected continent. That's a priority for me, and a priority for
>> our economic future, which I hope EU leaders will take seriously
>> at their forthcoming summit.
>> But, at the same time as we bring those barriers down, I want to
>> avoid new ones going up. Later this month, Internet world leaders
>> are meeting at the Internet Governance Forum in Bali. I am sorry
>> that, for the first time, I cannot be there in person myself. But
>> I would like to contribute, both to make clear how closely and
>> seriously we are watching this debate, and to stress the
>> importance of having a clear and robust framework for Internet
>> Governance and policy-making as soon as possible.
>> As it stands today, the conclusions of the World Summit on the
>> Information Society (WSIS) are the only international-level
>> political agreement on Internet governance; and they are the
>> subject of several consultations. Particularly important among
>> those consultations are the discussions in the "WSIS+10"
>> High-Level Event, and the UN Working Group on Enhanced
>> Cooperation; I hope many of you will be contributing.
>> The Internet is increasingly the forum for so much of our lives;
>> from transacting through commerce or banking; to interacting
>> through social networks; to communicating with governments or
>> pushing for democratic change. It's clear to me that the Internet
>> is a European strategic domain – and, although the internet is a
>> different kind of place to the "real world", our stance towards it
>> should be underpinned by just the same values, priorities and
>> interests as everything else.
>> This digital age needs a new social contract. Decisions that
>> affect the Internet shouldn't be taken just by politicians,
>> companies or technicians alone, without any reference to common
>> principles.
>> So I believe that the new social contract must be based on sound
>> principles. My starting point here are those in the Compact I
>> first floated a couple of years ago; like that the Internet should
>> remain open, unified, pro-democratic, enabling trust and
>> confidence, and based on transparent, multi-stakeholder
>> governance. Recent news shows just how fragile this balance of
>> values can be; important efforts to tackle terrorist threats
>> cannot be at the expense of fundamental freedoms.
>> But we also must have a clearer view of what we mean when we speak
>> of "multi-stakeholder processes". I worry that without a clear
>> definition, everyone will claim that their decision processes are
>> inclusive and transparent, when in practice they are not – as was
>> shown recently, when the Governmental Advisory Committee of ICANN
>> pressed on regardless - in spite of the EU's legitimate concerns
>> on new domain names.
>> As you may have seen, Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff recently
>> set out her strong belief in multi-lateral cooperation as a basis
>> for Internet governance. I am looking forward to seeing further
>> details – but in principle I very much support that line. Plus,
>> our future Global Internet Policy Observatory will help give a
>> more balanced view of how the Internet should be governed. And I
>> know many of these issues will also be discussed in Bali.
>> But I want to take this seriously. These are my thoughts: but I
>> want yours too; your ideas on how the Internet should be governed
>> and what Europe's role should be.
>> For the next four weeks, please share your views on the dedicated
>> web page.
>> +++
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --
>> Andrea Glorioso (Mr)
>> European Commission - DG Communication Networks, Content and
>> Technology
>> Unit D1 (International relations) + Task Force on Internet Policy
>> Development
>> Avenue de Beaulieu 25 (4/64) / B-1049 / Brussels / Belgium
>> T: +32-2-29-97682 M: +32-460-797-682 E:
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