[pp.int.general] Antonio - do you want to work with us in organizing this movement?

[Zbigniew Łukasiak]

Antonio - you are dodging the question.

Do you want to work with us - or not?


Z.


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Zbigniew,
>
> I do recognise myself in the Pirate Codex:
>
> Pirate Codex
>
> Pirates are free
>
> Pirates are freedom-loving, independent, autonomous, and  disapprove of
> blind obedience. They stand for informational self-determination and freedom
> of opinion. Pirates bear the responsibility entailed by freedom.
>
>
>> I am independent, autonomous, and disapprove of blind obedience. Things
>> are logic, or not logic, right, or not right, ethic, or not ethic, conform
>> to freely accepted rules, or not conform to freely accepted rules. These are
>> YES or NO situations according to RATIONAL BEHAVIOUR based on SUFFICIENT
>> KNOWLEDGE.
>
>
> I do NOT trade my freedom because of NON-RATIONAL majority voting and
> behaviour of crowds, be they supposed pirate ones.
>
>
>
>
>
> Pirates respect privacy
>
> Pirates protect privacy. They fight against the increasing surveillance
> mania of state and economy because it prohibits the  free development of the
> individual. A free and democratic society is impossible without private and
> unobserved free space.
>
>
>> Please, do it in a rational way, without bowing to majority GUT feelings
>> based on voluntary ignorance.
>
>
>
>
> Pirates are critical
>
> Pirates are creative, curious, and do not acquiesce in the status quo. They
> challenge systems, search for weak spots and find ways to correct them.
> Pirates learn from their mistakes.
>
>
>> I dare to be critical even about Pirate systems... I challenge EVERYTHING
>> that does not seem to be logically nor ethically sound.
>
>
> And there is MUCH to criticise in the pirate nirvana "#IDIOCRAZY"™ of the
> many that do not give too much a damn and the few pragmatic bureaucrats
> without respect for logic, ethic nor pirate honour.
>
>
> There has been an incident in Spain that lead to the creation of an awkward
> breakaway of the Pirate Party of Spain in Catalonia.
>
>
> And there has been an incident in the PPI in 2012 where such party was
> FRAUDULENTLY admitted as a full member of the PPI.
>
>
> Uncountable breaches of Pirate statutes, principles, logic, ethic and honour
> have been committed since to make this untenable situation last.
>
>
> Having this in mind, who do you think you are, and what legitimity do you
> still have, after your actions and/or omissions... to dare ask ME whether I
> feel I should be part of the Pirate Community?
>
>
> Do you think you are still a pirate?
>
>
>
>
>
> Pirates are fair-minded
>
> They keep their word. Solidarity is important when it comes to collective
> aims. Pirates counteract the blind-eye-mentality of society and take action
> when moral courage is necessary.
>
>
>> I value solidarity, a lot... in the defense of truth. Yeah, you are
>> thinking right... I haven't seen much of it existing among the majority of
>> those that dare call themselves pirates nowadays.
>
>
> TWO YEARS of stupid troubles, and counting... for something that should have
> taken ANY competent Court of Arbitration 20 minutes.
>
>
> And all of you have been indolent or stupid or obfuscated enough to have
> been looking at it during two long years now... and do nothing piratelike
> according to this Codex I am commenting for you here.
>
>
> So much for pirates being fair-minded.
>
>
>
>
> Pirates respect life
>
> Pirates are peaceful. Therefore they reject the death penalty and the
> destruction of our environment. Pirates stand for the sustainability of
> nature and its resources. We do not accept patents on life.
>
>
>> No, I ain't dead yet, nothing to comment.
>
>
>
>
> Pirates are eager for knowledge
>
> The access to information, education, knowledge and scientific findings has
> to be unlimited. Pirates support free culture and free software.
>
>
>> Knowledge that has not interested many pirates:
>
>
> http://samedokan.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/klarmachen-zum-kentern/
>
> http://samedokan.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/when-pirates-do-prefer-censorship/
>
>
> Knowledge of own actions and omissions... to be deeply ashamed of, if
> pirates only remember what such feeling tastes like.
>
>
>
>
> Pirates are social
> Pirates respect human dignity. They commit themselves to a society united in
> solidarity where the strong defend the weak. Pirates stand for a political
> culture of objectivity and fairness.
>
>> Guess what, I do value MY dignity a lot. And if it can not remain intact
>> among you... well then... CATEGORICALLY... it is you, no matter what the
>> number... who have forgotten what being a pirate has to be like.
>
>
> Pirates are international
>
> Pirates are part of a global movement. They take advantage of the
> opportunities offered by the internet and are therefore enabled to think and
> act without borders.
>
>
>> Show me the Movement... at this moment I only see sinking ships, and you
>> are not even under siege, the internal quarrels and rampant incompetence of
>> too many are more than enough.
>
>
> At times I seem the only one left thinking anything at all...
>
>
> ... all the rest seem monkeys that do not release the banana to free their
> hand... and will die in the trap because of their own stupidity.
>
>
> The Movement will NOT get any POSITIVE exposure again until the simple
> logical and ethical problems are solved.
>
>
> As long as you hide the truth... YOU can't be Pirates.
>
>
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>
>
>
> Do you believe you can solve the problem, or are Pirates doomed??
>
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 13:52:08 +0200
>> From: zzbbyy at gmail.com
>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>> Subject: [pp.int.general] Antonio - do you want to work with us in
>> organizing this movement?
>
>>
>> Or do you think that this is impossible, because we are too stupid, or
>> because the organization is just doomed or for whatever other reason?
>>
>> What does it mean for you to work together, to collaborate?
>>
>> --
>> Zbigniew Lukasiak
>> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
>> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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Zbigniew Lukasiak
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