[pp.int.general] Invitation PPI Conference Paris 12th/13th of April

[Stephen Ogden]

It should not be too much to ask that the organisation respects its members enough
to follow the rules that the members have agreed.

To be fair there is also an onus on each member to hold the Board to account. If
enough members allow the rules to slide for the sake of convenience (and this can be
very tempting and doesn't mean there are bad intentions) then the rules are
meaningless and the members are to blame. If the members fail over and over to
demand the rules are followed, can we really blame a Board for not respecting those
rules?

I know Andrew can be very quick to jump on PPI failings, and it is very very
inconvenient that he exposes each and every failing so clearly. It interesting that
when he does so that instead of hanging our heads in shame for letting those
failings happen and fixing them, there is a temptation to find any excuse to argue
against the /way/ he points it out, rather than deal with the failings themselves.
It is hard to be wrong and to admit it. Harder to not want to admit it and have
someone keep on shouting about it.

We need a solution to Andrew's inconvenient truths. My suggestion is we follow the
rules. That ought to shut him up.

  Stephen Ogden
  Governor of the Board - Pirate Party UK
  Pirate Party UK is a political party registered with the Electoral Commission.

On 28/03/2014 11:50, Thijs Markus wrote:
> Quasi-legalities aside, this 5 week notice for a yearly event shouldn't be that
> hard to accomplish.
>
> And despite the late notice, there is still not much information to be found...
>
> Board candidates: Gregory, the only candidate.
>
> Statutes Amendments: Apparently Nuno of ppp put in some work here, and these two
> proposals deserve some discussion and deliberation. 5 weeks would have been nice
> for that. Also, with the required 4 week notice to make such a proposal, that 5
> week notice is rather essential should other people have plans too.
>
> Other proposals: empty
>
> No offence, but looking at this, wouldn't it be more appropriate to reschedule
> this GA in some 6 weeks, so it can be done properly? If only because at this point
> only there is only one known candidate, and I'd like far more than an odd week to
> inform myself about the alternatives.
>
> This will be another last minute rush of candidates and proposals, and horribly
> uninformed decision making, after which naught will come of it. This modus
> operandi has not served PPI, and prevented PPI from serving us for the past years.
> We need these 5 weeks to have space for discussions on the future of PPI, to give
> the room this GA needs to become significant, if anyone still believes in it.
>
> On 28.03.2014 11:56, Maxime Rouquet wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So you're admitting (...)
>>
>> I am asking you to follow the Statutes and that is all. We have a
>> defined procedure for potential Statutes breaches, with a ruling by a
>> judiciary body that will get things closer to a fair trial than
>> unproductive exchanges of ad hominem attacks on a public mailing-list.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Maxime
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