[pp.int.general] Don't you think we should stand up and actually do something?

[seykron]

> > We as the european pirates can't disappear and every 5 years
> > suddenly appear 3 months before EU elections and say "vote for
> > us!"
> > Who's with me?
> 
> Sure, I see your point. I think your actions to call MEPs and write
> them e-mails are great! More Pirates should do this locally, and
> perhaps as social events!!! :-)

+1

I think there are an internal and a external political aspect here: from
inside the pirate parties it would be good to encourage participation
in order to strengthen relationships within the organization. For
instance, we organize small events like cryptoparties and we participate
in events at universities regarding pirate topics (free software, open
government, free culture). It is great to organically make growth the
organization (remember, elections do not provide you organic
engagement).

Beyond elections, there are a lot of political spaces to get involved
in politics. As Amelia remarked about telecoms competition, look at
your neighborhood and you'll find the problems that are not addressed
by institutions. Here we took the decision to do not participate in
elections, but we do participate in public discussions about topics on
the public agenda. We also get involved with local neighborhood
assemblies and different social movements that are committed with
different problems. We put the body there and we try to have an
overview of "what's happening out there in our community right now" as
well.

I personally support the motion "pirates might be behind a keyboard or
might be not, but we sure are beyond any political system because we
actually DO things".

Keep going on your actions, they're great!

Matías

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:34:54 +0100
Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 03/05/15 11:43, hyazinthe at emailn.de wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Another thought:
> > We as the european pirates can't disappear and every 5 years
> > suddenly appear 3 months before EU elections and say "vote for
> > us!", Well, we can, but than we don't need to wonder, that noone
> > knows us. Currently key decision on our core topics are being made
> > in the worst thinkable way. Why can't afford to be that quiet !
> >
> > Who's with me?
> 
> Sure, I see your point. I think your actions to call MEPs and write
> them e-mails are great! More Pirates should do this locally, and
> perhaps as social events!!! :-)
> 
> I have sketched postcards that can be sent to MEPs to remind them of
> the copyright consultation. Think Amnesty-style. This is easier for
> those pirates that have some form of common money to use.
> 
> Another idea I had, although this is practically more difficult and
> much more demanding in resources of time and money, is to match
> geographical origin of consultation responses with the nationality of
> MEPs, and then simply transmit one citizen response to question 80
> (the open-ended question, where most citizens have provided short
> essays detailing their relationship to copyright at large) to every
> MEP per day. For the German responses alone, this would take three
> years(!) but for some of the smaller member states it would take less
> than a month (although not much less than a month :P).
> 
> One issue which needs to be dealt with in Germany is telecoms
> competition: how to get municipalities involved in a competitive
> telecoms strategy for the entire country. This is more or less
> happening in some smaller municipalities in northern Germany. BUGLAS
> is the national organisation for locally owned infrastructure.
> Austria shares similar developments, with rural communities being
> increasingly agitated that only the incumbents benefit from
> anti-competitive policies and at the expense of citizen wellfare. I
> was thinking local petition, targetting local politicians requesting
> them to be competitive - I've tried this in Sweden, and the support
> for competitive markets and free choice is over-whelming here, and
> the ears of housing associations in equal measure deaf. I'll report
> back in a few months when I can more accurately assess the outcome.
> 
> best regards,
> 
> Amelia
> 
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Tobias Lechner
> >
> >
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