[pp.int.general] About TELECOM statement.

[Nicolas Sahlqvist]

Hi Enrique,

I know that Engström's yes to the telecom package is under debate even in
Sweden so perhaps it would have been better if he had at least abstained the
vote, but EU works in mysterious ways and you now have EU telecoms chief
Viviane Reding warning Spain of implementing a 3-strikes law (HADOPI
lookalike) based on the wording "Effective and timely judicial review is as
much guaranteed as a prior, fair and impartial procedure, the presumption of
innocence and the right to privacy.", a consequence of the compromise that
Engström lobbied for:

http://euobserver.com/9/29041

I think we need to further evaluate the effects of the compromise that
Engström voted for before we start criticizing him without actually
understanding how EU works.

Please note that Swedish MEP's are representing Swedish PirateParty voters
in the European Parliament so these are the ones they formally must formally
explain how they voted for and listen to, but despite this official
limitation Engstörm have a English blog with contact information available:

http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/
christian.engstrom at piratpartiet.se
+46706633780

Feel free to send him feedback, but do not expect quick feedback.


- Nicolas
  PPI / PPSE member


On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:51 PM, ninHer <enrique at errea.es> wrote:

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> Hi:
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> First of all, and have been awaiting some time for some kind of reply from
> some pirate party, I'd like to say that we in PIRATA do not agree<http://www.partidopirata.es/blog/el-partido-pirata-espanol-se-desliga-del-voto-en-el-paquete-telecom-del-eurodiputado-pirata-sueco/>with the explanation of the
> YES given by Mr.Engström to the Telecom Package. Specially and
> specifically to the part regarding that any kind of court would block
> internet access and restrict other civic rights and liberties. For example,
> here in Spain, this is only possible if a real judge from a real court gives
> green light to it, e.g., to seize publications, to wiretap communications
> and to make home registers. Obviously to cut off internet access includes
> everything listed and much more.
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> Have all of you (pirate parties) agreed with Engström's statement<http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/landmarks-in-the-telecoms-text/>?.
> If you do, why? And if you do not, why either?
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> Apart from this, in the light of Uppsala Declaration<http://www.piratpartiet.se/nyheter/european_pirate_platform_2009>which states the need to “adhere
> to the highest standards of democracy” and also follow.”principles as
> transparent government”, and considering that the pirate movement actually
> has one MEP in the Europarliament (going to be two beginning in December 1st
> 2009), is going to be normal and frequent having Swedish Piratpartiet MEPs
> visiting the PPI list in order to:
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>    - explain their parliamentary activity,
>    - explain what do they vote and why, and
>    - make themselves available to the applause or criticism from the rest
>    of pirate parties?
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> Best regards.
>
>
> Enrique Errea.
>
> II. RR. Spanish Pirate Party (PIRATA).
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