[pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack

[Jay Emerson]

Leak didn't happen in the U.S.
On Nov 29, 2010 12:46 AM, "Andrew Norton" <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:
>> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.
>
> *facepalm* Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... US educational standards!
>
> ACTIONS are legal, or illegal. That's what laws are, a list of actions
> and the situations in which they are "illegal" An illegal act, is ALWAYS
> an illegal act.
>
> Now, a PERSON can be guilty or innocent. Specifically, they are guilty
> or innocent of an ACTION. In this sort of discussion, and specifically
> with the usage of the phrase you have mentioned, the action is an
> illegal action. In fact, courts (in the U.S., since you made that
> distinction) go out of their way to avoid touching the question of an
> action's defined legality or illegality.
>
> If you don't understand (and I guess Jay doesn't, else he wouldn't have
> posted what he did)
> Taking some random child is kidnap, and is illegal. Forcing that child
> to have sex with you is illegal. Killing the child afterwards is
> illegal. Those actions are all defined as illegal.
>
> Now...
> Did Glenn Beck rape and kill a young girl in 1990?
> The answer is, even if he did, he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
>
> It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or
> illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to
> the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a
> court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.
>
> Of course, I can't blame Jay for not knowing the basic difference
> between actions and people, because i think he (proudly[1]) dropped out
> of high school before taking the class that explained this basic fact.
>
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2010 4:38 PM, "lilo" <al3lilo at autistici.org
>> <mailto:al3lilo at autistici.org>> wrote:
>> http://wlcentral.org/
>>
>>
>> whats about legal or not legal?
>>
>>
>> l.
>>
>>
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> [1] Second paragraph of 'background' section -
> http://www.pp-international.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25802
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