[pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack

[Jay Emerson]

AND Assange is not a citizen of the U.S.
On Nov 29, 2010 2:56 AM, "Jay Emerson" <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Leak didn't happen in the U.S.
> On Nov 29, 2010 12:46 AM, "Andrew Norton" <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:
>>> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.
>>
>> *facepalm* Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... US educational standards!
>>
>> ACTIONS are legal, or illegal. That's what laws are, a list of actions
>> and the situations in which they are "illegal" An illegal act, is ALWAYS
>> an illegal act.
>>
>> Now, a PERSON can be guilty or innocent. Specifically, they are guilty
>> or innocent of an ACTION. In this sort of discussion, and specifically
>> with the usage of the phrase you have mentioned, the action is an
>> illegal action. In fact, courts (in the U.S., since you made that
>> distinction) go out of their way to avoid touching the question of an
>> action's defined legality or illegality.
>>
>> If you don't understand (and I guess Jay doesn't, else he wouldn't have
>> posted what he did)
>> Taking some random child is kidnap, and is illegal. Forcing that child
>> to have sex with you is illegal. Killing the child afterwards is
>> illegal. Those actions are all defined as illegal.
>>
>> Now...
>> Did Glenn Beck rape and kill a young girl in 1990?
>> The answer is, even if he did, he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
>>
>> It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or
>> illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to
>> the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a
>> court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.
>>
>> Of course, I can't blame Jay for not knowing the basic difference
>> between actions and people, because i think he (proudly[1]) dropped out
>> of high school before taking the class that explained this basic fact.
>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2010 4:38 PM, "lilo" <al3lilo at autistici.org
>>> <mailto:al3lilo at autistici.org>> wrote:
>>> http://wlcentral.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> whats about legal or not legal?
>>>
>>>
>>> l.
>>>
>>>
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>> [1] Second paragraph of 'background' section -
>> http://www.pp-international.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25802
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>> - --
>> Andrew Norton
>> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
>> Tel: (352)6-KTETCH [352-658-3824]
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