[pp.int.general] Invitation to demonstration against ACTA the 11th of March in front of the European Parliament in Strasbourg

Mon Feb 20 18:10:31 CET 2012

I am not sure if all the local pirate parties from South-Western Germany
and Northern Switzerland read here, maybe you want to try to contact them
directly?

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Parti Pirate Alsace <
alsace.contact at lists.partipirate.org> wrote:

> Dear Amelia, dear fellow Pirates,
>
> We are REALLY sorry about the confusion created by our last mails.
>
> We had not proof-read them, and therefore created an embarassing situation
> for Ms Amelia Anderstotter and her team. We would like to apologize for
> that.
>
> As you all have read, Amelia declined our invitation due to her key
> position in ACTA's ratification process by the European Parliament. We hope
> that Mr Christian Engström will join us, but nothing is decided.
>
> By the way, our invitation is still going for the other Pirates. We would
> be very pleased to see people from other nations joining us on March 11th.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alsace section, Pirate Party of France
>
>
> 2012/2/14 Justus Römeth <squig at dfpx.de>
>
>> Moin Pirates!
>>
>> At least us here in Hanover also toyed with the idea of having a central
>> European protest, either in Brussels or Strasbourg (as opposed to a central
>> German protest in Berlin or Fankfurt, which we think would be rather silly,
>> but which has been proposed in Germany, too). Unfortunately I think the
>> 12th of March is way too short-term for us, for two reasons:
>> 1) We wanted it to be big, to at least charter a bus from here.
>> Impossible to do in that short amount of time, as there is also the protest
>> on the 25th and we have a private life, too (you know, writing theses and
>> that kind of stuff)
>> 2) if we plan events every two weeks we run in a danger of boring the
>> people who support us, just as happened with Occupy. We need to be in this
>> fight for the long haul, and need to make our events not monotonous and too
>> repeadetly. Granted a protest-trip to Strasbourg is different than a local
>> demonstration, but still.
>>
>> Also, for our next GA there are Pirates from Southern Germany trying to
>> organize a train to the venue (which is North of Hamburg), so if we plan
>> this European protest right, we could try to organize a train (or more)
>> going from Eastern Europe (PL/CZ/HU/SK) through Germany and other adjacent
>> countries towards Brussels. This of course would require a lot more time to
>> plan than we have for any date before May, but if it worked it would be an
>> awesome idea. There were already comments on the European dimension of this
>> protest in at least Polish, German and a Luxembourgish newspaper, a
>> coordinated protest in Brussels could take that to the next level.
>>
>> However, there is also the freedom not fear in Berlin demonstration that
>> is sort of a competing event, as it will draw a lot of people from all over
>> Germany, especially with ACTA going on, and it should be noted the sales of
>> tickets for the train are going very slow as is.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Justus
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM, <mattias.bjarnemalm at piratpartiet.se>wrote:
>>
>>> As there seem to be some confusion on the matter I'd like to start by
>>> informing you all that Amelia Andersdotter will not be leading any
>>> protest
>>> in Strasbourg the 11 th of March. That statement is entirely inaccurate.
>>>
>>> Let's start at the beginning.
>>>
>>> At 17.05 Amelia received the very same email containing a question wether
>>> she would consider joining the protest. Bellow that part was the same
>>> text
>>> as you've all just received on this list. We discussed it briefly in the
>>> office and decided that due to Amelias key position within the internal
>>> political process concerning ACTA it would not be wise for her to lead or
>>> participate in a protest against ACTA outside of the parliament, but that
>>> we would reply that Mr Christian Engström could most likely be convinced
>>> to
>>> participate. As we where in a hurry to finish the tasks at hand before a
>>> meeting with representatives from one of the major smartphone companies
>>> we
>>> did not have the time to go into details such as wether we should inform
>>> the Pirate Party of Alsace that if they intended to send a message to the
>>> European Parliament it would probably be better received if transmitted
>>> when the parliament would actually be in Strasbourg. Which the parliament
>>> will not be on the 11 th of March. The Strasbourg session starts after
>>> lunch on the 12 th of Mars, and anything happening here in the weekends
>>> is
>>> as remote from the minds of the MEPs as any demostration in a minor
>>> remote
>>> french city would be. What we did have time to decide was that we would
>>> have to write to the Pirate Party of Alsace and explain as to why Ms
>>> Andersdotter would not be able to attend.
>>>
>>> At 18.57 we got a new email from the Pirate Party of Alsace telling us to
>>> disregard the previous email and repeating the invitation for Amelia
>>> and/or
>>> Christian to participate. This was 3 minutes before the start of a group
>>> meeting of the Green group so we figured that a reply would have to wait
>>> untill afterwards, or in worst case untill the morning. After all, it
>>> concerned a demonstratation that was due to take place almost four weeks
>>> from now so there seemed to be no hurry.
>>>
>>> At 19.05 while in the group meeting for the Green group I notice on my
>>> smartphone that I have a new email on my party email account. As the
>>> meeting was not overly interesting at that time I took the time to read
>>> the
>>> email. Whiched proved to be a good move as it gave me the oppurtunity to
>>> approach Amelia and show her the message and ask how we should handle the
>>> fact that the pirates of Pirate Party Alsace conciders an absence of a
>>> reply for two hours from a question being asked as a confirmation that
>>> you
>>> agree with their proposal. Our decision was that I should swiftly leave
>>> the
>>> group meeting and write a reply to this list so as to avoid any rumors of
>>> Amelias participation in a demonstration the 11 th of March starting to
>>> circulate.
>>>
>>> I hope that the clarification above can achive that results and should
>>> there be any lingering questions regarding wether she intends to be in
>>> Strasbourg the 11 th of March or not even after this clarification do not
>>> hesitate to contact me directly so that I, to the best of my extent, may
>>> answer any such questions.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Mattias Bjärnemalm
>>> Head of Office
>>> Office of Amelia Andersdotter, MEP
>>>
>>> European Parliament
>>> ASP 06 E 266
>>> Rue Wiertz 60
>>> 1047 Brussels
>>>
>>> Tel: +32(0)2 28 47922
>>> Fax: +32(0)2 28 49922
>>> mattias.bjarnemalm at europarl.europa.eu
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:00:31 +0100, Parti Pirate Alsace
>>> <alsace.contact at lists.partipirate.org> wrote:
>>> > Dear fellow Pirates,
>>> >
>>> > In France, we are glad to see all the protests against ACTA throughout
>>> > Europe.
>>> >
>>> > The 11th of march we will have huge protests in France, and more
>>> > specifically in Strasbourg.
>>> > The European Parliament will have a session from the 12 of march, so
>>> making
>>> > a protest in Strasbourg, in front of the European Parliament the 11th
>>> of
>>> > march, will be a strong signal to them !
>>> >
>>> > Having representatives from all the european Pirate Parties ( and from
>>> all
>>> > around the world, if you can come ) would show our utter determination
>>> to
>>> > protect the free flows of ideas. The Euro-Congresswoman Amelia
>>> Anderstotter
>>> > will lead the protest.
>>> >
>>> > Join us !
>>> >
>>> > Don't hesitate to contact us about accomodations ( we can host some of
>>> you.
>>> > But as it is an European session at the same time, it will be difficult
>>> to
>>> > find free rooms ).
>>> >
>>> > Regional section Alsace, Pirate Party France
>>> > alsace.contact at lists.partipirate.org
>>> > Here are some photos of the last protest :
>>> > https://alsace.partipirate.org/spip.php?article14
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