[pp.int.general] International PP Press Service

Mozart mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au
Sun Jan 15 13:52:03 CET 2012 

I actually think that your proposal is damn good. I'm glad to see it  
put forward so concisely. My only concern is that then you need to  
find a group of people who will work independently of their own  
parties. If you can do that, I see no reason why the idea shouldn't go  
ahead, and would be more than willing to volunteer for an editorial  
board if people are needed. :-)

Regards,
Mozart.

PS: Don't underestimate what PPDE sees as "important stuff" – PPs are  
an international movement, and international movements require co- 
operation. I'm not sure if the three-pirate rule applies to PPDE, but,  
if it does, use it.

On 15/01/2012, at 11:39 PM, Justus Römeth wrote:

> LOL. The board of PPDE surely has more important stuff to do then to  
> give me permission to do writeups for a project we don't even know  
> the form of.
>
> If we were to decide to go your road I could do that (though I have  
> no idea if that will be successful or not).
>
> I really appreciate your energy and input. But I am not sure that  
> every PP can, or wants to set this up the way PPAU does. And while  
> it is important that a project like this does not seem like one PP  
> is trying to put forward it's views and neglects the ones of the  
> rest, especially keeping in mind the eurocentrism we have in the PPs  
> already, I doubt this will work without some kind of project  
> leadership/management/name it as you will.
>
> Maybe we have a bit of a different idea on how this could work:
>
> You seem to think that it should be done by the parties itself, by  
> officials, with a sort of oversight, but also responsibility to  
> support it, of the respective party leadership.
>
> I think we gain more if we set up an independent entitiy, a service  
> that, even though it is reporting on the pirate parties, and depends  
> on them to give information and technical assistance, is actually  
> independent of the structure of both PPI and the national parties. I  
> think that is more flexible, since every party can respons to it as  
> it sees fit, but as long as there are a few people willing to push  
> it forward as a kind of editorial board something will happen.
> That would not stop PPAU to put forward a person to write those  
> reports every month or every fortnight. But the other parties could  
> react to it as they see fit.
>
> kind regards -J
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Mozart <mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au 
> > wrote:
> Now is the time to get yourself known. Email the board and ask them  
> for permission to do the write ups, or tell them do to it themselves!
>
> Mozart
> PPAU
>
>
> On 15/01/2012, at 11:01 PM, Justus Römeth wrote:
>
>> And, it has another flaw: Most people on the board of PPDE don't  
>> even know me . So you also lose volunteers that are not known  
>> within big PPs.
>>
>> 2012/1/15 Rok Andrée <rok.andree at piratskastranka.net>
>> That's a good idea, but it has one flaw.
>>
>> Most PPs dont have the man power to even run them selfs. We could  
>> write a report once a month, but we really cant give some one to  
>> you to work on this.
>>
>> Lp
>> Rok Andrée
>> Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 January 2012 03:05, Mozart <mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au>  
>> wrote:
>> I've got a good idea. Why not email out to each Pirate Party asking  
>> for a representative to work on the newsletter? After a set time  
>> (maybe a month, to allow responses), those representatives could  
>> meet together and discuss how best to create the newsletter, the  
>> resources needed, and how to ensure it is actually produced.
>>
>> On 15/01/2012, at 9:32 AM, Justus Römeth wrote:
>>
>>> That's what I thought as well.
>>>
>>> I think a good way to spread it further would be to send one  
>>> version to the PPI list, that way everybody who reads this list  
>>> gets the update automatically. Shouldn't PPDE or PPSE have an  
>>> infrastructure in place for newsletter we could use, too? Seems  
>>> like the easiest way for me.
>>>
>>> 2012/1/14 Rok Andrée <rok.andree at piratskastranka.net>
>>> What if you all joined forces and worked together. The two of you  
>>> could really make real attempt at a good, helpful, efficient  
>>> service that would have a very big effect on the effectiveness of  
>>> the international movement.
>>>
>>> And as far as your infrastructure goes... i'm shure that we can  
>>> find someone to help you with that. As long as you provide content  
>>> we will find you the infrastructure to deploy it.
>>>
>>> Lp
>>> Rok Andrée
>>> Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 January 2012 22:33, Josef Ohlsson Collentine <josef at collentine.com 
>>> > wrote:
>>> Seeing that Rok already shared the url of my project I might as  
>>> well explain it here.
>>>
>>> http:// changingpirateparties.net/about
>>>
>>> The newsletter will always focus on four different areas:
>>> 1) Global PP news 2) Organizational tips 3) Election Results and  
>>> changes 4) Important dates
>>>
>>> This newsletter has been pretty much what you have described about  
>>> the PP Press Service in some ways. It's been a project reaching  
>>> about 100 pirates in +15 countries. A monthly newsletter aimed at  
>>> pirate news with a global interest. It's been inactive lately due  
>>> to me finishing off my thesis and relocating to Mexico. Will start  
>>> it again once I'm a bit more settled here in Mexico.
>>>
>>> The reason I haven't told that many about the newsletter is  
>>> because it's been created through a newsletter service with  
>>> limited audience possibilities. Also because I wanted to try  
>>> concepts and ideas before going too public with it. Going to re- 
>>> shape the project a bit now and involve more persons soon. Looking  
>>> to change my newsletter service from madmimi.com that I've been  
>>> using so far. Preferably something with free software and easy to  
>>> use (adding pictures, text and basic layout). Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> /Josef
>>>
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>>>
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>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Mozart Palmer
>> Head of Media Relations
>> Pirate Party Australia
>> Ph: 0415 152 765
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
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