[pp.int.general] International PP Press Service
Justus Römeth
squig at dfpx.de
Sun Jan 15 15:52:49 CET 2012
@ Mozart: Well, it is still Josef's child, so we have to see how he sees
the whole thing once he's settled in.
Therefore I don't think a mumbledate without him makes much sense. We could
open a pad for brainstorming if others think that's a good idea. The least
I can do is put the newsletter on my state's list (and the German one
should that be wished for) as well, but I think I will have enough time to
do more than that.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Pirat at LennStar.de <pirat at lennstar.de>wrote:
> I would say we all
> 1. came to the mumble on the 16 or 17. (when was it?)
> 2. make a list of our consenus goals (important step, mostly ignored,
> the reason why there is more talk than do)
> 3. look what we need for a goal and where to get it.
>
> After that it's done a step.
>
> I for myself could say that (even if I am not able to contribute
> regularily) I post the Newsletters on the blog of my german state Pirate
> Party. That's distribution.
>
> LennStar
>
> Am 15.01.2012 13:52, schrieb Mozart:
> > I actually think that your proposal is damn good. I'm glad to see it put
> > forward so concisely. My only concern is that then you need to find a
> > group of people who will work independently of their own parties. If you
> > can do that, I see no reason why the idea shouldn't go ahead, and would
> > be more than willing to volunteer for an editorial board if people are
> > needed. :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mozart.
> >
> > PS: Don't underestimate what PPDE sees as "important stuff" – PPs are an
> > international movement, and international movements require
> > co-operation. I'm not sure if the three-pirate rule applies to PPDE,
> > but, if it does, use it.
> >
> > On 15/01/2012, at 11:39 PM, Justus Römeth wrote:
> >
> >> LOL. The board of PPDE surely has more important stuff to do then to
> >> give me permission to do writeups for a project we don't even know the
> >> form of.
> >>
> >> If we were to decide to go your road I could do that (though I have no
> >> idea if that will be successful or not).
> >>
> >> I really appreciate your energy and input. But I am not sure that
> >> every PP can, or wants to set this up the way PPAU does. And while it
> >> is important that a project like this does not seem like one PP is
> >> trying to put forward it's views and neglects the ones of the rest,
> >> especially keeping in mind the eurocentrism we have in the PPs
> >> already, I doubt this will work without some kind of project
> >> leadership/management/name it as you will.
> >>
> >> Maybe we have a bit of a different idea on how this could work:
> >>
> >> You seem to think that it should be done by the parties itself, by
> >> officials, with a sort of oversight, but also responsibility to
> >> support it, of the respective party leadership.
> >>
> >> I think we gain more if we set up an independent entitiy, a service
> >> that, even though it is reporting on the pirate parties, and depends
> >> on them to give information and technical assistance, is actually
> >> independent of the structure of both PPI and the national parties. I
> >> think that is more flexible, since every party can respons to it as it
> >> sees fit, but as long as there are a few people willing to push it
> >> forward as a kind of editorial board something will happen.
> >> That would not stop PPAU to put forward a person to write those
> >> reports every month or every fortnight. But the other parties could
> >> react to it as they see fit.
> >>
> >> kind regards -J
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Mozart
> >> <mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au
> >> <mailto:mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Now is the time to get yourself known. Email the board and ask
> >> them for permission to do the write ups, or tell them do to it
> >> themselves!
> >>
> >> Mozart
> >> PPAU
> >>
> >>
> >> On 15/01/2012, at 11:01 PM, Justus Römeth wrote:
> >>
> >>> And, it has another flaw: Most people on the board of PPDE don't
> >>> even know me . So you also lose volunteers that are not known
> >>> within big PPs.
> >>>
> >>> 2012/1/15 Rok Andrée <rok.andree at piratskastranka.net
> >>> <mailto:rok.andree at piratskastranka.net>>
> >>>
> >>> That's a good idea, but it has one flaw.
> >>>
> >>> Most PPs dont have the man power to even run them selfs. We
> >>> could write a report once a month, but we really cant give
> >>> some one to you to work on this.
> >>>
> >>> Lp
> >>> Rok Andrée
> >>> Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 15 January 2012 03:05, Mozart
> >>> <mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au
> >>> <mailto:mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I've got a good idea. Why not email out to each Pirate
> >>> Party asking for a representative to work on the
> >>> newsletter? After a set time (maybe a month, to allow
> >>> responses), those representatives could meet together and
> >>> discuss how best to create the newsletter, the resources
> >>> needed, and how to ensure it is actually produced.
> >>>
> >>> On 15/01/2012, at 9:32 AM, Justus Römeth wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> That's what I thought as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think a good way to spread it further would be to send
> >>>> one version to the PPI list, that way everybody who
> >>>> reads this list gets the update automatically. Shouldn't
> >>>> PPDE or PPSE have an infrastructure in place for
> >>>> newsletter we could use, too? Seems like the easiest way
> >>>> for me.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/1/14 Rok Andrée <rok.andree at piratskastranka.net
> >>>> <mailto:rok.andree at piratskastranka.net>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What if you all joined forces and worked together.
> >>>> The two of you could really make real attempt at a
> >>>> good, helpful, efficient service that would have a
> >>>> very big effect on the effectiveness of the
> >>>> international movement.
> >>>>
> >>>> And as far as your infrastructure goes... i'm shure
> >>>> that we can find someone to help you with that. As
> >>>> long as you provide content we will find you the
> >>>> infrastructure to deploy it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lp
> >>>> Rok Andrée
> >>>> Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14 January 2012 22:33, Josef Ohlsson Collentine
> >>>> <josef at collentine.com <mailto:josef at collentine.com>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Seeing that Rok already shared the url of my
> >>>> project I might as well explain it here.
> >>>>
> >>>> http:// changingpirateparties.net/about
> >>>> <http://changingpirateparties.net/about>
> >>>>
> >>>> The newsletter will always focus on four
> >>>> different areas:
> >>>> *1) Global PP news 2) Organizational tips 3)
> >>>> Election Results and changes 4) Important
> dates*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This newsletter has been pretty much what you
> >>>> have described about the PP Press Service in
> >>>> some ways. It's been a project reaching about
> >>>> 100 pirates in +15 countries. A monthly
> >>>> newsletter aimed at pirate news with a global
> >>>> interest. It's been inactive lately due to me
> >>>> finishing off my thesis and relocating to
> >>>> Mexico. Will start it again once I'm a bit more
> >>>> settled here in Mexico.
> >>>>
> >>>> The reason I haven't told that many about the
> >>>> newsletter is because it's been created through
> >>>> a newsletter service with limited audience
> >>>> possibilities. Also because I wanted to try
> >>>> concepts and ideas before going too public with
> >>>> it. Going to re-shape the project a bit now and
> >>>> involve more persons soon. Looking to change my
> >>>> newsletter service from madmimi.com
> >>>> <http://madmimi.com> that I've been using so
> >>>> far. Preferably something with free software and
> >>>> easy to use (adding pictures, text and basic
> >>>> layout). Any suggestions?
> >>>>
> >>>> /Josef
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> International Contact Person PPSE
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>> Mozart Palmer
> >>> Head of Media Relations
> >>> Pirate Party Australia
> >>> Ph: 0415 152 765
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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