[pp.int.general] Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is 16 years away

[Anouk Neeteson]

no global conscientiousness >> no global solutions >> politics & lobbying
>> more problems

It IS that simple, only your (as in everybody) unwillingness to
conceptualise it prevents all progress >> politics >> disaster

On 27 July 2012 13:33, Gijs Overvliet <govervliet at gmail.com> wrote:

> "There is no need to conceal military installations. "
>
> What gives you the credit to make such a definite claim? Forgive me for
> doubting the fact that you are in a position to make such strategic
> military decisions.
>
>
> 2012/7/27 Cal. <peppecal at gmail.com>
>
>>
>> Il giorno 27/lug/2012 10:43, "Antonio Garcia" <ningunotro at hotmail.com>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>> >
>> > The "green" selling effort of the nuclear-power-industry has nothing to
>> do with CO2 blame, what they are after is that there is but one way to
>> conceal a military nuclear facility... the radiation noise of a civil
>> nuclear facility. Thus they need the civil application to survive... if
>> they want to be able to conceal the military one.
>>
>> There is no need to conceal military installations.
>>
>> > In some way, CO2 proficiency is used only as an useful excuse (in this
>> context), just as combating child porn is the useful excuse in the war on
>> control of the internet.
>>
>> This seems paranoid. Isn't CO2 bad anymore?
>>
>> > This would be of course in the interest of the few TOP LEVEL Competing
>> ELITES.
>> >
>> > Fighting pollution this way does not only allow them to provide civil
>> nuclear facilities behind which to hide their military nuclear
>> installations... it also allows them to exert pressure on the new emerging
>> economies that can only compete with "dirty" energy because they have no
>> access to the latest clean technology... and there we connect with the
>> Intellectual Propery (both copyright and patent) term extension and
>> enforcement efforts that try to extend our advantage in time.
>>
>> Military technology is not just intellectual property, with great power
>> comes great responsibility, do we want north korea to bomb us? I guess
>> there would be no problem in making those infos public, but the main goal
>> should be to develop non-that-military tech, like thorium. Or ITER, and so
>> on...
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Antonio García
>> > PP-ES
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Gregory.Engels at piratenpartei-hessen.de
>> > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:21:43 +0200
>> > To: rms at gnu.org; pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is
>> 16 years away
>> >
>> > On 23.07.2012, at 05:42, Richard Stallman wrote:
>> >
>> > >    The whole global warming thing is at least dubious.
>> > >
>> > > Not according to real climate scientists.  That "doubt" is FUD
>> > > intended to convince people to take no action.
>> >
>> > And in whose interested would this be? In contrast there were
>> > proven reports that nuclear-power-industry have invested a
>> > lot in research proving that CO2 is to blame on the coming end
>> > of the world as we know it, in order to build more nuclear power
>> > plants, selling them as "green", as they emit zero CO2.
>> >
>> >
>> > Gregory Engels
>> > International Coordinator
>> > Pirate Party of Germany
>> >
>> > mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
>> > skype:gregory.engels
>> > jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
>> > my free time: https://tungle.me/dichter
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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