[pp.int.general] PPI board meeting minutes and some updates about the conference

[Daniel Riaño]

2012/3/2 Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>

> If you (pp-es) decide to create an association in catalonia, as your local
> tentacle... Do you realize that this will be seen as an aggression by most
> pp-cat members, do you? if that's your plan, lets stop wasting time and
> let's start a war right now.
>
> Waw!  Is it like this among you...? I mean, you say "Waaaaar" and all the
Catalans put their helmets on and take their grandfathers' guns, and rumble
the streets. feeew! amazing, to say the least.

Sadly this is not like this here in PP ES. In fact, the Catalan arm of
Pirata (we prefer the word arm to tentacle, you see) existed *before* the
so called PP CAT and nobody went to war when part of the catalan affiliates
went their Catalan way (many of them having a double affiliation still
now). So soft are we nowadays.

Daniel


>
> And about fixing pp-es statutes... I've heard that song of 'getting close'
> for 3 years so far... I remember you that you need a general assembly to
> change so, with a 90% qourum... Stop daydreaming, you'll never reach that
> qourum until there's only 3 members :(
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
> Eduardo Perdices <edupergar at gmail.com> escribió:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>wrote:
>
>>  Hi Justus,
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> PP-ES has had several internal issues in the last years... It looked like
>> its new bureau was fixing it, but suddenly* it fucked up and got frozen
>> again.*.. Sadly, PP-ES hasn't taken profit of its potentiality since
>> 2006.
>>
>
> This is not true, we are changing our statutes right now, in fact, I'm
> doint it myself.
>
>
>>
>>
>> PP-CAT and PP-GAL are pushing for a Pirate Confederation in Spain, to
>> define basic rules for common candidatures (like EU parliament's one),
>> where PP-ES can have federated regional parties like Madrid, Andalucia or
>> whoever wants, whilst others can choose to become members of the
>> confederation, being PP-ES itself one of the confederation members.
>>
>
> Chance of confederating with other PPI members is already included on our
> new statutes, we just need to approve it in about 3 months. Besides, the
> rest of regions are not going to be federated regional parties, but
> associations inside PP-ES.
>
>
>>
>> However, internal work in PP-ES is terribly slow, thus, if we can't agree
>> something before PPI's GA, we will probably propose an statute
>> modification, changing "country" for "territory", so, PP-CAT and PP-GAL
>> would be able to achieve full membership status.
>>
>
> On summer our new statutes will be ready, there is no need to change
> anything.
>
>
>>
>> This modification would ease the integration of parties PP-CAT and PP-GAL
>> into PPI, by PP-ES confirming that it's not going to present
>> candidatures/lead activity in these territories, and easing the admission
>> of new PPI members in places like Palestine, Turkish-Kurdistan, Irak's
>> Kurdistan and so on, which lack a state but have completely independent
>> politics of Israel, Turkey or Irak.
>>
>
> If we are confederated with PP-CAT and PP-GAL we will have activity in
> these territories because we will have associations there, but we will
> collaborate with PP-GAL and PP-CAT and we won't present candidatures there
> alone.
>
>
>>
>> Would you like/support such a statute modification?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Kenneth Peiruza
>> Pirates de Catalunya
>> http://pirata.cat
>>
>>
> Bye.
>
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