[pp.int.general] PPI board meeting minutes and some updates about the conference

[Kenneth Peiruza]

Please Daniel, avoid sending me emails. You're being investigated to be
punished for your lack of respect to your fellas in your own party...

You pushed an initiative in your own party to push away any double
affiliates... the only two pirates not double-affiliates in Catalonia
were an insane guy who was pushed away from most PP-ES and PP-CAT
mailing lists (and died 4 months ago), and your mate at former's PP-ES
bureau who spied the treasurer's email, made a nasty job with your
nowadays untrustable census and torpedoed any kind of agreement btw
PP-CAT and PP-ES whilst he was the "official contact". He even sent to
trash most emails asking for cooperation/agreement sent by David Arcos.

If that is your "arm" in Catalonia, lemme suggest you to dissolve it.


Regards,

Kenneth


On 02/03/12 20:27, Daniel Riaño wrote:
> 2012/3/2 Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>>
>
>     If you (pp-es) decide to create an association in catalonia, as
>     your local tentacle... Do you realize that this will be seen as an
>     aggression by most pp-cat members, do you? if that's your plan,
>     lets stop wasting time and let's start a war right now.
>     pir
>
> Waw!  Is it like this among you...? I mean, you say "Waaaaar" and all
> the Catalans put their helmets on and take their grandfathers' guns,
> and rumble the streets. feeew! amazing, to say the least.
>
> Sadly this is not like this here in PP ES. In fact, the Catalan arm of
> Pirata (we prefer the word arm to tentacle, you see) existed *before*
> the so called PP CAT and nobody went to war when part of the catalan
> affiliates went their Catalan way (many of them having a double
> affiliation still now). So soft are we nowadays.
>
> Daniel
>  
>
>
>     And about fixing pp-es statutes... I've heard that song of
>     'getting close' for 3 years so far... I remember you that you need
>     a general assembly to change so, with a 90% qourum... Stop
>     daydreaming, you'll never reach that qourum until there's only 3
>     members :(
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Kenneth
>
>
>     Eduardo Perdices <edupergar at gmail.com
>     <mailto:edupergar at gmail.com>> escribió:
>     Hello,
>
>     On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Kenneth Peiruza
>     <kenneth at pirata.cat <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Justus,
>
>
>         ...
>
>         PP-ES has had several internal issues in the last years... It
>         looked like its new bureau was fixing it, but suddenly_it
>         fucked up and got frozen again._.. Sadly, PP-ES hasn't taken
>         profit of its potentiality since 2006.
>
>
>     This is not true, we are changing our statutes right now, in fact,
>     I'm doint it myself.
>      
>
>
>
>         PP-CAT and PP-GAL are pushing for a Pirate Confederation in
>         Spain, to define basic rules for common candidatures (like EU
>         parliament's one), where PP-ES can have federated regional
>         parties like Madrid, Andalucia or whoever wants, whilst others
>         can choose to become members of the confederation, being PP-ES
>         itself one of the confederation members.
>
>
>     Chance of confederating with other PPI members is already included
>     on our new statutes, we just need to approve it in about 3 months.
>     Besides, the rest of regions are not going to be federated
>     regional parties, but associations inside PP-ES.
>      
>
>
>         However, internal work in PP-ES is terribly slow, thus, if we
>         can't agree something before PPI's GA, we will probably
>         propose an statute modification, changing "country" for
>         "territory", so, PP-CAT and PP-GAL would be able to achieve
>         full membership status.
>
>
>     On summer our new statutes will be ready, there is no need to
>     change anything.
>      
>
>
>         This modification would ease the integration of parties PP-CAT
>         and PP-GAL into PPI, by PP-ES confirming that it's not going
>         to present candidatures/lead activity in these territories,
>         and easing the admission of new PPI members in places like
>         Palestine, Turkish-Kurdistan, Irak's Kurdistan and so on,
>         which lack a state but have completely independent politics of
>         Israel, Turkey or Irak.
>
>
>     If we are confederated with PP-CAT and PP-GAL we will have
>     activity in these territories because we will have associations
>     there, but we will collaborate with PP-GAL and PP-CAT and we won't
>     present candidatures there alone.
>      
>
>
>         Would you like/support such a statute modification?
>
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         Kenneth Peiruza
>         Pirates de Catalunya
>         http://pirata.cat <http://pirata.cat/>
>
>
>     Bye.
>
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