[pp.int.general] PPI board meeting minutes and some updates about the conference
Kenneth Peiruza
kenneth at pirata.cat
Sun Mar 4 16:15:35 CET 2012
Daniel, please, stop personal attacks. This is your way of doing in
every list where you are subscribed: Spain, Madrid and here as well.
Regards,
Kenneth
On 04/03/12 14:30, Daniel Riaño wrote:
> I'll keep it short, to avoid annoying the rest of the list with
> Kenneth Peiruza's issues with the Spanish PP. If there is really an
> investigation going on of the sort he say, then he knows more than I
> do about the functioning of my party, and I am a member of the
> directive board. I know a friend of Peiruza's is trying to push an
> investigation with such rubbish, but to my knowledge it remains to be
> seen if it is taken in account at all. I do know what I do, and I did
> not an initiative of the kind he mentions. It is not that I am for or
> against it. It simply never happened.
>
> Kenneth has a long record of false accusations, wrongful assertions
> and mean innuendos against PP ES and its members and, when called out
> to clarify the evidence behind his words, he doesn't feel obliged to
> substantiate his sayings, which is one of the reasons I firmly hold
> him as a unreliable cantankerous liar.
>
> I do feel sorry that his party has never produced a public note
> detaching themselves, as a party, from such raucous individual, who is
> constantly torpedoing the relations between PP CAT and PP ES, and now
> is trying fortune in Galicia as well.
>
> I'll stop it here This has nothing to do with the PPI, and I have a
> life to live.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Daniel
>
>
> 2012/3/4 Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>>
>
> Please Daniel, avoid sending me emails. You're being investigated
> to be punished for your lack of respect to your fellas in your own
> party...
>
> You pushed an initiative in your own party to push away any double
> affiliates... the only two pirates not double-affiliates in
> Catalonia were an insane guy who was pushed away from most PP-ES
> and PP-CAT mailing lists (and died 4 months ago), and your mate at
> former's PP-ES bureau who spied the treasurer's email, made a
> nasty job with your nowadays untrustable census and torpedoed any
> kind of agreement btw PP-CAT and PP-ES whilst he was the "official
> contact". He even sent to trash most emails asking for
> cooperation/agreement sent by David Arcos.
>
> If that is your "arm" in Catalonia, lemme suggest you to dissolve it.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
> On 02/03/12 20:27, Daniel Riaño wrote:
>> 2012/3/2 Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat
>> <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>>
>>
>> If you (pp-es) decide to create an association in catalonia,
>> as your local tentacle... Do you realize that this will be
>> seen as an aggression by most pp-cat members, do you? if
>> that's your plan, lets stop wasting time and let's start a
>> war right now.
>> pir
>>
>> Waw! Is it like this among you...? I mean, you say "Waaaaar" and
>> all the Catalans put their helmets on and take their
>> grandfathers' guns, and rumble the streets. feeew! amazing, to
>> say the least.
>>
>> Sadly this is not like this here in PP ES. In fact, the Catalan
>> arm of Pirata (we prefer the word arm to tentacle, you see)
>> existed *before* the so called PP CAT and nobody went to war when
>> part of the catalan affiliates went their Catalan way (many of
>> them having a double affiliation still now). So soft are we nowadays.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>> And about fixing pp-es statutes... I've heard that song of
>> 'getting close' for 3 years so far... I remember you that you
>> need a general assembly to change so, with a 90% qourum...
>> Stop daydreaming, you'll never reach that qourum until
>> there's only 3 members :(
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kenneth
>>
>>
>> Eduardo Perdices <edupergar at gmail.com
>> <mailto:edupergar at gmail.com>> escribió:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Kenneth Peiruza
>> <kenneth at pirata.cat <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Justus,
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> PP-ES has had several internal issues in the last
>> years... It looked like its new bureau was fixing it, but
>> suddenly_it fucked up and got frozen again._.. Sadly,
>> PP-ES hasn't taken profit of its potentiality since 2006.
>>
>>
>> This is not true, we are changing our statutes right now, in
>> fact, I'm doint it myself.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> PP-CAT and PP-GAL are pushing for a Pirate Confederation
>> in Spain, to define basic rules for common candidatures
>> (like EU parliament's one), where PP-ES can have
>> federated regional parties like Madrid, Andalucia or
>> whoever wants, whilst others can choose to become members
>> of the confederation, being PP-ES itself one of the
>> confederation members.
>>
>>
>> Chance of confederating with other PPI members is already
>> included on our new statutes, we just need to approve it in
>> about 3 months. Besides, the rest of regions are not going to
>> be federated regional parties, but associations inside PP-ES.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, internal work in PP-ES is terribly slow, thus,
>> if we can't agree something before PPI's GA, we will
>> probably propose an statute modification, changing
>> "country" for "territory", so, PP-CAT and PP-GAL would be
>> able to achieve full membership status.
>>
>>
>> On summer our new statutes will be ready, there is no need to
>> change anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> This modification would ease the integration of parties
>> PP-CAT and PP-GAL into PPI, by PP-ES confirming that it's
>> not going to present candidatures/lead activity in these
>> territories, and easing the admission of new PPI members
>> in places like Palestine, Turkish-Kurdistan, Irak's
>> Kurdistan and so on, which lack a state but have
>> completely independent politics of Israel, Turkey or Irak.
>>
>>
>> If we are confederated with PP-CAT and PP-GAL we will have
>> activity in these territories because we will have
>> associations there, but we will collaborate with PP-GAL and
>> PP-CAT and we won't present candidatures there alone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Would you like/support such a statute modification?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Kenneth Peiruza
>> Pirates de Catalunya
>> http://pirata.cat <http://pirata.cat/>
>>
>>
>> Bye.
>>
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