[pp.int.general] European Pirates' logo

[Josef Ohlsson Collentine]

Payment is not always monetary. If coordinated a bit we could promise
massive exposure to whoever wins the logo competition through Facebook fan
page mentions and website links from fairly high-ranking sites.

The final result of the European logo is relevant for all countries
participating in European Pirates and jointly they could easily send a fair
amount of exposure to a winners other projects.

Kindly,
Josef


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> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:49:47 +0100
> From: Jelena Jovanovic <jelena.the.one at gmail.com>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] European Pirates' logo
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> "Apart from the logo and corporate image designers, we are looking for
> creatives who would be willing to be a member of the creative
> committee. Since the team should be diverse, we would like to ask each
> party that intends to be a member of the European Pirates to try to
> find one volunteer (or maximum two) among their designers, publicists,
> media professionals, etc, that can participate in the selection
> committee (he or she doesn't need to be linked to the pirate party)."
>
>
> I have people I am working with for common good but it is very hard to
> enroll them in Pirate parties. first because of previously formed bad
> reputation (created by death threats of Aleksandar Blagojevic) and second
> because PP RS has no meetings so noting can be decided about new  members.
>
> If you have any advice how to overcome  this, please do not hesitate to
> share. I figured PP RS is not the only party with this kind of problem.
>
> Brgds
>
> JJ
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Muriel Rovira Esteva <muriel at pirata.cat
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > The European pirate parties gathered at the Warsaw conference, agreed
> > on the convenience of designating a committee of professional
> > creatives that organised a selection process for the logo and
> > corporate identity of the European Pirates.
> >
> > The call for proposals has been announced this weekend (2nd and 3rd of
> > November) in the Common Programme meeting in Athens:
> >
> > * The designers will have until the 31st of December to submit their
> > proposals.
> >
> > * You can read below the set of rules that has been prepared for the
> > selection process, or also in the following link:
> > https://eu.piratenpad.de/ep/pad/view/ro.58lU1emocPWLpV4jrHD7BHL/rev.108
> >
> > Please do read them thoroughly before you submit your proposal,
> > submissions that don't meet the technical requirements will not
> > qualify.
> >
> > * An international committee of creative professionals may suggest
> > improvements to the proposals submitted before the deadline, and will
> > pre-select 5 logos (6 if there's a tie) that fulfil the technical
> > requirements, are creatively interesting, and better represent the
> > European Pirates values.
> >
> > * When the proposal pre-selection finishes at the beginning of 2014,
> > the parties will have time until March to internally decide their
> > vote. Preferably a few weeks before the meeting in Brussels: if we
> > know in advance what the parties will vote, we may even be able to
> > have some merchandising ready for its distribution at the founding.
> >
> >
> > Apart from the logo and corporate image designers, we are looking for
> > creatives who would be willing to be a member of the creative
> > committee. Since the team should be diverse, we would like to ask each
> > party that intends to be a member of the European Pirates to try to
> > find one volunteer (or maximum two) among their designers, publicists,
> > media professionals, etc, that can participate in the selection
> > committee (he or she doesn't need to be linked to the pirate party).
> >
> > Keep in mind that designers involved in the selection process cannot
> > submit their own proposals, so if you have an amazing logo designer,
> > maybe it's better to engage him/her into submitting a proposal.   :)
> >
> > You can contact the organisers team at:
> > pirates-logo at pirata.cat
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Juan Irache
> > Coordinator of the Organising Team
> >
> > _________________________________
> >
> > REGULATION
> >
> > The parties that intend to found the European Pirates organise and
> > call for proposals for the European Pirates logo and corporate
> > identity selection process.
> >
> > Entering the process is free and open to individuals of any nationality.
> >
> > * Requirements:
> >
> > Logo and corporate identity proposals must include in some way the
> > usual pirate party logo: a P-shaped ship sail. The concept of Europe
> > must also be
> > present. The creative interpretation of this concept is flexible. That
> > is: not limited to the stars or a map.
> >
> > Submitted logos must include the name of the party and allow the
> > adaptation to any of its legal forms, acronyms and translations
> > (European
> > Pirates, European Pirate Party, PIRATES, PPEU).
> >
> > It is advised to use a ratio between 1.5 *1 and 1 * 1,5.
> >
> > Vectorial files of every logo version must be included in the
> > submission, as well as a JPG version 300 pixels wide.
> >
> > Adaptation to different names, along with general use, must be
> > explained in a corporate identity manual. It is required to present a
> > colour version and a black and white one, both including negative
> > options. If necessary, a
> > complementary version for small-support situations will also be
> > included. The manual will also specify safety margins and examples of
> > correct vs. incorrect uses of the logo.
> >
> > The manual will explain how to use the whole corporate identity in
> > physical and digital supports (letters, websites, etc).
> >
> > Included typographies must be freely accessible and legally usable,
> > without financial costs or need for attribution.
> >
> > Documents that will be taken into account during the voting process
> > are: a 300 pixels wide JPG version of the logo and the PDF corporate
> > identity manual.
> >
> > Designers have to submit their proposals to pirates-logo at pirata.cat.
> >
> > * Selection:
> >
> > A committee formed by international creatives will pre-select 5 logos
> > (6 if a tie is reached) that fulfil the technical requirements, are
> > creatively interesting and better represent the values of the European
> > Pirates.
> >
> > The members of this committee are not allowed to submit their own
> > proposals.
> >
> > The parties that intend to found the European Pirates will assess the
> > pre-selected proposals and decide their preference internally. Their
> > votes will be made official at the European Pirates Founding
> > Conference in Brussels (March 2014).
> >
> > * Deadlines:
> >
> > The submission deadline is December 31 2013. However, it is highly
> > recommended to submit proposals before December 15. That way, the
> > creative committee will assess the submissions and prepare
> > recommendations so that participating designers can improve their
> > proposals before the deadline.
> >
> > * Legal:
> >
> > By taking part in the selection process, designers refuse financial
> > compensation. They sign over the rights of public communication,
> > direct and indirect reproduction, distribution and transformation to
> > European Pirates for the use of the work in every communication mode
> > and in any network, for an unlimited period of time. Designers also
> > state that they are the only authors of the submitted work and any
> > pre-existing content has been used with an appropriate permission.
> >
> > The organisers decline any responsibility in case of bad or no
> > reception of the contents, for any reason, as well as in case of
> > Internet or email malfunctions that hider the correct development of
> > the process.
> >
> > The organisers the right to modify or even cancel the selection
> > process without notice in the case of force majeure that prevents the
> > purposes of the process from being reached. This includes own and
> > external technical problems. Likewise, the organisers reserve the
> > right to modify, after notification, the present process regulation
> > and to settle, to their best judgement, any situation not provided in
> > the present regulation.
> >
> > Participation in the selection process implies full acceptance of the
> > present regulation.
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> email:  jelena.jovanovic at pp-international.net
> Twitter: @Miss_Cybernaut
> Skype: [image: Skype/] jjpress  About me:  about.me/cybernaut
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> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 14:10:36 +0100
> From: Muriel Rovira Esteva <muriel at pirata.cat>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>         <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] European Pirates' logo
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> Hello,
>
> Well, in Pirates de Catalunya we organised an ad video festival to select
> our campaign video (  http://fap.pirata.cat/  ) and there was a mixed jury
> composed by Amelia, two members of pirate party boards, a movie critic, two
> movie directors, and a famous copyright lawyer (
> http://fap.pirata.cat/jurado/  ). As far as I know, none of the last four
> members of the jury had anything to do with any pirate party.
>
> I don't see why this would be different. You can be involved in a selection
> process without being part of that orgnisation. This is just a technical
> decision on what design and corporate image better conveys the goals of the
> organisation, it does not mean that you endorse the European Pirates or
> agree with it.
>
> The difference in this case is that, instead of a mixed jury, we have a two
> stage process: the technical commission and then the assemblies. This way
> all pirates can participate choosing the logo, and not just three.   :)
>
> Personally, the main problem I see is finding people who would be willing
> to do this for free. I can see someone who might find interesting to add in
> his/her CV that they were asked to participate in the selection comittee
> bla bla bla... I have done things for free sometimes to add them to my CV.
> Or maybe someone would do it as a favour, just because we know them and ask
> them to do it. For the ad video festival in Pirates de Catalunya, this was
> arranged by Juan, the organiser, who used his personal contacts within his
> profession and asked them to help us. That's why I assume in this case it
> will be people we know as well.  :)
>
> However, I don't think the fact that the logo is for a party should be a
> problem for professionals not affiliated to the party to help us choose it.
>   :)
>
> Greetings,
>
>           Muriel
>
>
>
> 2013/11/8 Jelena Jovanovic <jelena.the.one at gmail.com>
>
> > "Apart from the logo and corporate image designers, we are looking for
> > creatives who would be willing to be a member of the creative
> > committee. Since the team should be diverse, we would like to ask each
> > party that intends to be a member of the European Pirates to try to
> > find one volunteer (or maximum two) among their designers, publicists,
> > media professionals, etc, that can participate in the selection
> > committee (he or she doesn't need to be linked to the pirate party)."
> >
> >
> > I have people I am working with for common good but it is very hard to
> > enroll them in Pirate parties. first because of previously formed bad
> > reputation (created by death threats of Aleksandar Blagojevic) and second
> > because PP RS has no meetings so noting can be decided about new
>  members.
> >
> > If you have any advice how to overcome  this, please do not hesitate to
> > share. I figured PP RS is not the only party with this kind of problem.
> >
> > Brgds
> >
> > JJ
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Muriel Rovira Esteva <muriel at pirata.cat
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> The European pirate parties gathered at the Warsaw conference, agreed
> >> on the convenience of designating a committee of professional
> >> creatives that organised a selection process for the logo and
> >> corporate identity of the European Pirates.
> >>
> >> The call for proposals has been announced this weekend (2nd and 3rd of
> >> November) in the Common Programme meeting in Athens:
> >>
> >> * The designers will have until the 31st of December to submit their
> >> proposals.
> >>
> >> * You can read below the set of rules that has been prepared for the
> >> selection process, or also in the following link:
> >> https://eu.piratenpad.de/ep/pad/view/ro.58lU1emocPWLpV4jrHD7BHL/rev.108
> >>
> >> Please do read them thoroughly before you submit your proposal,
> >> submissions that don't meet the technical requirements will not
> >> qualify.
> >>
> >> * An international committee of creative professionals may suggest
> >> improvements to the proposals submitted before the deadline, and will
> >> pre-select 5 logos (6 if there's a tie) that fulfil the technical
> >> requirements, are creatively interesting, and better represent the
> >> European Pirates values.
> >>
> >> * When the proposal pre-selection finishes at the beginning of 2014,
> >> the parties will have time until March to internally decide their
> >> vote. Preferably a few weeks before the meeting in Brussels: if we
> >> know in advance what the parties will vote, we may even be able to
> >> have some merchandising ready for its distribution at the founding.
> >>
> >>
> >> Apart from the logo and corporate image designers, we are looking for
> >> creatives who would be willing to be a member of the creative
> >> committee. Since the team should be diverse, we would like to ask each
> >> party that intends to be a member of the European Pirates to try to
> >> find one volunteer (or maximum two) among their designers, publicists,
> >> media professionals, etc, that can participate in the selection
> >> committee (he or she doesn't need to be linked to the pirate party).
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that designers involved in the selection process cannot
> >> submit their own proposals, so if you have an amazing logo designer,
> >> maybe it's better to engage him/her into submitting a proposal.   :)
> >>
> >> You can contact the organisers team at:
> >> pirates-logo at pirata.cat
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Juan Irache
> >> Coordinator of the Organising Team
> >>
> >> _________________________________
> >>
> >> REGULATION
> >>
> >> The parties that intend to found the European Pirates organise and
> >> call for proposals for the European Pirates logo and corporate
> >> identity selection process.
> >>
> >> Entering the process is free and open to individuals of any nationality.
> >>
> >> * Requirements:
> >>
> >> Logo and corporate identity proposals must include in some way the
> >> usual pirate party logo: a P-shaped ship sail. The concept of Europe
> >> must also be
> >> present. The creative interpretation of this concept is flexible. That
> >> is: not limited to the stars or a map.
> >>
> >> Submitted logos must include the name of the party and allow the
> >> adaptation to any of its legal forms, acronyms and translations
> >> (European
> >> Pirates, European Pirate Party, PIRATES, PPEU).
> >>
> >> It is advised to use a ratio between 1.5 *1 and 1 * 1,5.
> >>
> >> Vectorial files of every logo version must be included in the
> >> submission, as well as a JPG version 300 pixels wide.
> >>
> >> Adaptation to different names, along with general use, must be
> >> explained in a corporate identity manual. It is required to present a
> >> colour version and a black and white one, both including negative
> >> options. If necessary, a
> >> complementary version for small-support situations will also be
> >> included. The manual will also specify safety margins and examples of
> >> correct vs. incorrect uses of the logo.
> >>
> >> The manual will explain how to use the whole corporate identity in
> >> physical and digital supports (letters, websites, etc).
> >>
> >> Included typographies must be freely accessible and legally usable,
> >> without financial costs or need for attribution.
> >>
> >> Documents that will be taken into account during the voting process
> >> are: a 300 pixels wide JPG version of the logo and the PDF corporate
> >> identity manual.
> >>
> >> Designers have to submit their proposals to pirates-logo at pirata.cat.
> >>
> >> * Selection:
> >>
> >> A committee formed by international creatives will pre-select 5 logos
> >> (6 if a tie is reached) that fulfil the technical requirements, are
> >> creatively interesting and better represent the values of the European
> >> Pirates.
> >>
> >> The members of this committee are not allowed to submit their own
> >> proposals.
> >>
> >> The parties that intend to found the European Pirates will assess the
> >> pre-selected proposals and decide their preference internally. Their
> >> votes will be made official at the European Pirates Founding
> >> Conference in Brussels (March 2014).
> >>
> >> * Deadlines:
> >>
> >> The submission deadline is December 31 2013. However, it is highly
> >> recommended to submit proposals before December 15. That way, the
> >> creative committee will assess the submissions and prepare
> >> recommendations so that participating designers can improve their
> >> proposals before the deadline.
> >>
> >> * Legal:
> >>
> >> By taking part in the selection process, designers refuse financial
> >> compensation. They sign over the rights of public communication,
> >> direct and indirect reproduction, distribution and transformation to
> >> European Pirates for the use of the work in every communication mode
> >> and in any network, for an unlimited period of time. Designers also
> >> state that they are the only authors of the submitted work and any
> >> pre-existing content has been used with an appropriate permission.
> >>
> >> The organisers decline any responsibility in case of bad or no
> >> reception of the contents, for any reason, as well as in case of
> >> Internet or email malfunctions that hider the correct development of
> >> the process.
> >>
> >> The organisers the right to modify or even cancel the selection
> >> process without notice in the case of force majeure that prevents the
> >> purposes of the process from being reached. This includes own and
> >> external technical problems. Likewise, the organisers reserve the
> >> right to modify, after notification, the present process regulation
> >> and to settle, to their best judgement, any situation not provided in
> >> the present regulation.
> >>
> >> Participation in the selection process implies full acceptance of the
> >> present regulation.
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > email:  jelena.jovanovic at pp-international.net
> > Twitter: @Miss_Cybernaut
> > Skype: [image: Skype/] jjpress  About me:  about.me/cybernaut
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
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